Woman Wearing Mantilla During Novus Ordo Clearly Batshit Crazy

April 30, 2015 by  
Filed under Parish Life

Pointing out the batshit crazy woman wearing a mantilla during a Novus Ordo Mass, local Catholic J.D. White told reporters today that the religious freak had even knelt to receive communion on the tongue as if to show off how holy she was.

“I’ll be honest when I say that I’m a bit afraid of the wacko,” White told reporters as he continually checked for the veiled religious zealot to appear with a bomb strapped to her chest or something like that. “You just never know what these wingnuts are capable of. The woman is clearly deranged. She’s been praying with her eyes closed all throughout Mass.”

Other parishioners reported that the “freak show” continued to exhibit signs of lunacy as she knelt to receive communion and then preceded to draw even more attention to herself when people realized that she was dressed reverently for Mass.

“Pssst…you…come over here,” one parishioner told EOTT near the end of Mass. “A bunch of us are planning to throw trash at the Catholic jihadist lady as she walks to her car after Mass. You interested?”

  • Ce Gzz

    I’m one of those…with veil and kneeling to receive Communion.

  • LatinMassType

    They asked me if someone in my family had died.

    I stared them down and now they leave me alone.

  • Paul S.

    You forgot when the pastor told her “this isn’t a fashion show.”

  • Forrest Alverson

    *’proceeded’, not ‘preceded’.

  • RissyAnne1

    You forgot to include that it’s part of our “fashion” or “personality”……the parishioner who says….”That’s so you”…..I didn’t know we could “knee”…but I do receive on the tongue.

  • cececole

    I am that crazy lady. I have been asked if I am wearing a veil because someone died or if I am in a third order. Not.

    • WHETHER YOU ARE OR NOT YOU MORE THAN LIKELY HAVE NO SECURE RELATIONSHIP WITH A GOD WHO LOVES YOU OR THEE . UH, YOU HAFE TO SAY THEE B ECAUSE YOU ARE INSECURE.

  • MairinT

    Well, I am proud of being one of the bats…wear mine all the time, N.O. or TLM AND I do not shake hands before Holy Communion…But, it can be nasty. In Ireland last year the priest made a thing of stepping down as I knelt and told me to stand next time I come to him !!! I told him I was not there for him but for Christ. No wonder the church was almost empty.

    • Laura Paxton

      Good job! I’ll have to remember to do that if I am similarly told inappropriate things by a priest.

    • Jason Suggs

      Remember, with traddies priest bashing is bloodsport. They are all so much better than priests! How Vatican II of them!

      • WHY DO THAT?

        • Jason Suggs

          For traddies, playing the holier than thou victim is what they live for. If they can simultaneously be the victim and put a priest in his place, it’s a home run!

          • WHY CAN’T WE COMMIT THEM AND THEN BAN THEM NOT US ???

          • wanda

            In 6 months, he aged 25 years. Can we say “Rageaholic”?

          • el ingeniero loco

            your rude. by the way its not a holier than though attitude I know others people that are holier than me that recieve on the hand. however I know that recieving on my knees helps my faith and helps me be holier, and not you and not the EMHC and not even the priest has any right to tell me not to kneel before my Lord and my GOD. in the Latin Rite on the knees is still preferred even if in practice it only done by the “bats” and jason perhaps you can try recieving on your knees if you really do believe thats Jesus it will change your outlook and your life

          • Frankie Oconnor-younv

            We were bought up to have a white lace scarf, hat or lace hankerchief sized vail on our heads when we went to our catholic church.
            We also had to kneel when we received communion.
            When that changed in New Zealand about 50 years ago i remember my parents shock but as they got older, they realised it helped them to not have to knee down when recieving instead of missing out due to injuries or age. We also all had trouble with receiving the blessed host in our hands too. But got used to it and not having to wear a scarf etc as well.
            These were man made rules in the first place, out of respect for beliefs and the changing or loosening of these rules goes to show this.
            But for many people and those from other countries that are catholic in faith, these rules still apply.
            The hatred in the writers thoughts and actions of throwing things at someone different, says alot about their immaturity, childness, self loath and suppressed anger than about the lady at church so called showing off. Hers was done with respect, his done out of resentment and hatred of himself and others.
            Hopefully he will grow up one day and not feel threatened by respect of beliefs

          • Emmie

            Frankie, eye of the tiber is a satire site. As such, I think the writers are trying to point out how crazy the attitude is that people are calling the lady crazy. I know a lot of people that think people who kneel or wear mantillas are crazy. But I agree with you that this was done out of respect. Just because someone tries to be holy, doesn’t mean that they are trying to be holier-than-thou or say they are better.

      • Ce Gzz

        how ignorant of you! Speaking about having mercy in your comments… guess chastity is so unpopular for neo-caths these days.

        • Jason Suggs

          Traddie trash is no better than any other trash. Oy.

          • Ce Gzz

            The Catholic Church is TRADITION! you call trash my Mother Church? Heretics all over!

      • bumpy187

        Irony: Actually your comment is “so Vatican II”>

    • ecv3

      I was once told “That was unneeded” by a extraordinary server and I told him ‘I kneel before my Lord”. After Mass I told the priest and he told me “There is never anything wrong with extra reverence for our Lord”. He also seemed glad I did. Just to point out I always go to the priest and this guy seen me.

    • ThereseZ

      I shake hands if it’s a little kid – I don’t want to spurn them, and they may be a little shy and it’s hard to look up at a strange adult and hold out their hand. Adults, I just smile and nod and keep my arms folded.

      • Sean Haran

        dear sister, what is wrong with shaking hands, exchanging peace with neighbour, during Mass?

        • sasprilla

          Nothing wrong with it exactly. Some just prefer to keep the focus on Our Lord while they’re in holy mass. After mass, there are always a gaggle of people just outside shaking hands, hugging, chatting. Mass isn’t for socializing, that’s all. 🙂

          • Frankie Oconnor-younv

            I get embarrased even when it got near to the – hand shaking time during the service.
            I never feel comfy doing it at all so i used to try and sit in the back row or somewhere i wouldnt have people near me so when it was the sign of peace time, i didnt have to get involved. Shyness.
            Mind you there was always that one oerson who insisted walking 4 rows back to get me lol.
            Man made rule and i think it was more important to greet people with friendliness and love on the times we werent in church, so i didnt worry much about not involving myself during mass. Sorry God.

          • Judy BC

            I like to share peace during mass because mass is not only an individual thing but it is for community too! Just as communion. Holy communion is not only a personnal grace (it is but not only) but it is a testimony too. An testimony that we live according to what we believe in front of the community. We receive the peace of Christ and share it with our brothers and sister and we will receive togheter the life of our Lord 🙂
            make sens to me 🙂
            (sorry for mistakes i am french)

        • Casper

          Trust me – – nobody wants the germs I have on my hands from dealing with
          kids and kleenexes. I actually think there’s moldy carpet or something
          that causes my kids’ noses to run more than ever in church.

  • TanichcaF

    Oh, this hits close to home! I was refused communion once for kneeling for communion and wearing a mantilla to mass. I do both regularly at my own NO parish, but at this church, on Holy Saturday after standing as a godmother to a new Catholic… I was refused communion, and taken aside by the priest later to be yelled at for being a show-off. Owch.

    • Jo Flemings

      I hope you are kidding, TanichaF. If you aren’t, I want names.

      • Jo Flemings

        EOTT notwithstanding, I am only willing to put up with so much, before I am really done with error. You just kicked the lid of my can of bat blank.

        • Jo Flemings

          Normally, as a personal rule, I defer to any/every collar, which is WHY when I don the veil, I am even wearing one. I have a VERY HIGH regard for men, my husband, and especially the ordained. I am not one, I don’t pretend to have their gifts, talents, abilities, or capabilities or CALLING/VOCATION. But I have limits, and I will be vehemently sharing my opinion of this, in writing, a few times.

          • TanichcaF

            I wasn’t sure how to spell his name, but yes. This was last year (2014) mind you… so I’m not sure if anyone would respond now.

          • Jo Flemings

            The Holy Spirit responds- and the important thing is leadership. We all make mistakes and have sentimental moments- and some of them can be tragically public and scandalous. When one of my kids or I mess up and get called out on it, we deal with it. This happened, it should not have, and it is worth mentioning to the person who did wrong and to those responsible for his soul, even if it was a year ago. If God has already worked it out, then we are all fine and it’s all good. If not, then its a work of mercy to bring it out into the light. I choose mercy.

          • Christi H

            I think the way to respond is to continue to show reverence and persistent humility before the Blessed Sacrament. If this priest refuses you communion, or otherwise repremands you again, you could say something to his bishop if it seems nessesary. But until then, focus on the exaultation of Christ in the Eucharist, and remember that true worship can never be rendered illegal by the edicts of men, mighty as they are. True, the form has since changed, but the old was never forbidden.

          • Sandra

            I say STILL go to the Bishop NOW and not wait as “but until then” so as to waste more time. This has happened to several people there. I know this was a while ago but I hope by now this has been resolved.

          • Christi H

            And I confess, he’s bold! So many priest wouldn’t DARE refuse ANYONE communion, no matter how obvious the necessity. Get this priest on our side and he could be a profound proponent of preventing the desecration of the Eucharist!

      • TanichcaF

        Sadly, no. I went up the line, knelt as was my want… and he whispered that he would not give me communion unless I stood. Then, at the post-baptismal party after mass, he asked me to come outside, and proceeded to tell me how wrong I was, how the Church changed the rules and made kneeling for communion and veiling illegal, and I was just a show-off who thought I was better than everyone else, wasn’t I? This is the head pastor of St. Francis de Sales parish in Tucson, AZ.

        • Juan Dopico

          Well, the Vatican made no such rule against kneeling. In fact, you should contact your bishop and inform him about the abuse of that pastor in his refusal to give communion.

          • Andy Miller

            Bishop Kicanas of Tucson wouldn’t do much I’m afraid. I am from Phoenix which is a fairly conservative Diocese, but have wandered into the liberal diocese of Tucson. I was at a Mass with Bishop Kicanas and knelt to receive communion. At first he raised his hand as to give me a blessing and then he looked at me and asked, “oh, are you receiving communion”? Later after Mass I kissed his ring and he said “You aren’t from here, are you?” haha. He is pleasant enough and would never deride anyone that I know of, but I also think he would be very slow to act on something like this given the state of his diocese.

          • TanichcaF

            Andy, yep, he’s in the same boat. He wouldn’t do anything. Quite a few people have had the same experience as you, me included. But he retires soon! Pray for our next bishop, whoever he is!

          • Andy Miller

            That may be the best news I hear all day!

          • Frankie Oconnor-younv

            There are higher than bishop. Use them

          • standtall909

            Bishop Kicanas was in my Diocese for a while. Nope, he is not traditional in the least. He is a very pleasant guy, personable to talk to but he is definitely of the modernist bent, no doubt about it.

          • Sandra

            It’s those “nice” priests and Bishops who are a problem for the Church. We need good strong yet reverent priests and Bishops for the Church to thrive the way it should. Pray for all Priests and Bishops and pray for vocations to the Priesthood, that good strong and reverent men will be ordained now and in the future. Hail Mary pray for your sons!!!

          • Beth

            And if you don’t turn him in and accept the abuse obediently, your soul will benefit…it’s a small suffering that will help with purification. Bless you for wanting to honor and show reverence to the Lord.

          • HEY DO YOU BELIEVE GOD SPEAKS TO YOU? ANSWER THAT FIRST

          • Beth

            Not directly. But he speaks to us by inspiring us when we pray.

          • Frankie Oconnor-younv

            I dont believe that statement at all. I believe the Lord wouldnt want the misrepresentation of parishioners faith thru actions of respect to be continued due to some weak preachers of God.

        • Silvia Aldredge

          Tanichca- Please consider writing a letter to the bishop and copying it to the CDF in Rome. Just tell them what happened. It’s the saddest thing in the world to hear that a priest responded so nastily and incorrectly to a person who is simply expressing their faith and reverence before God. Good luck

        • Ana Jcf Mendibles

          What the hey!!!!! That’s nuts! I live in Tucson and I attend Sts Peter and Paul and I have never had this happened me or my daughter, in fact they honor it. This is absurd for a priest say this to you and absolutely wrong. But keep going to Mass, keep wear that mantilla and keep kneeling.

        • helenme

          Right, phone your Bishop and tell him. The priest needs to be corrected asap. We need to speak up if the Shepherds are in the wrong.

          • standtall909

            Yes indeed. Part of the problem is that not enough of us are speaking up! Must go to the Bishop and if that doesn’t work, go higher, and if that doesn’t work go to the media. Catholic faithful need to learn to yell the truth from the rooftops!

          • PLEASE REMEMBER TO SIGN IT … MOST PEOPLE LIKE YOU DON’T DON”T DON’T SIGN THOSE LETTERS BECAUSE WELLLL,,,, YOU ALL ARE TWO FACED RELIGIOUS EXHIBITIONISTS.

          • Frankie Oconnor-younv

            Actually ive just thought that whilst the priest is just about to finish his sermon, id stand up and thank him for his message and then say the many people want to know why he told you that you are not allowed to kneel and receive the Lord.

        • GOOD FOR HIM. I OWN LAND OUT THERE AND LIVE IN TAMPA BAY. DON’T LET ME CATCH YOU YOU BAT BLEEP CRAZED SHOW OFF. WHO TAUGHT YOU THIS?

          • Marie Noybn

            Jeanne, you do understand that the article here was meant to be satire, pointing to people like you who clearly dont read your catechism to know that communion in the hand and not veiling are indulgences. Nothing wrong with accepting those idulgences, and nothing wrong with realizing that Our Lord and God stand before us in Holy Communion and by any rights we should be on our BELLIES much less our knees before Him. Also Mary has never appeared without a veil, even post vatican two. God be with you.

          • Frankie Oconnor-younv

            Dont bother about this attention seeking immature control freak who has to write in capitals to try and get noticed because there is no meaning to the messages written by him.
            Hes got a small coc….

        • Sandra

          Wow, I’m sorry this happened to you. Go to the Bishop of your diocese. If he doesn’t want to do anything about it, go over him. Search where Pope Benedict XVI clearly states where we can kneel and no priest has a right to refuse communion to anyone who wishes to do so.

          And one more thing. Pray for that Priest and pray for the Bishop of your diocese. They really need prayer. Hand them over to Mary and she’ll take care of this situation.

        • Frankie Oconnor-younv

          Nothing in the adaptation of Gods rules are legal law. That priest should have been man enough of his convictions to talk openly amongst those in the room. But instead he chose to do it in the privacy of a hallway where he could try and manipulate you without others to stand up for your rights. Id send a email to him c.c.ing his higher ups asking for him to clarify his statement to you and ask for the paperwork that shows it is illegal.

    • Sandra

      Wow, that’s horrible! I always kneel for communion no matter if it’s a Mass in ordinary form or Extraordinary (TLM). One time a deacon asked “why do you kneel?” but he still gave me communion. I was never refused communion while kneeling at a OF Mass.

      • MariaAuxiliadora

        “What is wrong with that? If you believe that Christ is our God and he’s present, why don’t you kneel? Why don’t you crawl?!”
        -Francis Cardinal Arinze
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iunsjwajit8

        • Beth

          Exactly! I wish the Church could go back to kneeling at the altar rail for communion. I don’t wear a veil, but everyone has a right to do what their heart tells them is reverent.

          • YOU SAY THE TWO FACED LIE . WE ADHERE TO THE MAGISTERIUM…. YET YOU LIE LIKE HELL AND DO WHAT EVER YOU WANT.

          • Ce Gzz

            What ever we want? Show me a document from the Church where this is prohibited you arrogant coward? You scream but have no clue about what documents we have in Christ’s Church. Stick your head to daily Rosary and maybe you’ll start understanding what is Holy and why GOD deserves all respect.

        • Sandra

          That’s right! I saw this video over a dozen times and I never tire to watch it. Thanks for sharing! 🙂

    • Robin Poe

      Same here. Refused Holy Communion for kneeling to receive. Some of the clergy are not very tolerant.

      • JR

        Why don’t you ladies tell the offending priests that you are pro-abort politicians? They wouldn’t dare refuse you.

        • Frankie Oconnor-younv

          What a studip comment. You must feel threatened JR to have to bring up other irrelivent stuff to try and make your weak point.
          I have discussed the fact that I believe woman have a choice when it comes to their bodies many times with many priests. Unlike you, they do not judge me as it isnt their place to judge. You should try it sometime

      • Ce Gzz

        Some clergy are very ignorant.

        • AND SO ARE YOU. WHO DIED AND MADE YOU THE Pope???

          • Ce Gzz

            Not the pope but certainly read more than you. I assume you have not read a single document from Vatican I, hence you have no clue about the pope and the chance he has to make mistakes, more so when he is so concerned about the world and not about what God demanded. Who do you serve? A human or GOD? In the end it is your soul salvation you are jeopardizing.

          • Sandra

            Don’t pay any attention to stark61555. He’s a troll who thinks HE’s the Pope! He’s brutal and uncaring according to his posts here.

          • Frankie Oconnor-younv

            Hes serves money, power and attention id say lol

          • Kim Bo

            We don’t have a pope right now. The pope has to be
            a man and he has to be a Catholic. Let me know
            when Bergoglio converts.

          • Sandra

            Wow, you must be a Sedevacantist or belong to some schism group or something. If you think we do not have a Pope then you are saying Jesus is a liar! You know not of what you speak so it’s best you keep your lips sealed so that no more lies come out of it.

          • el ingeniero loco

            pope bendedict only gave communion one the tongue while kneeling we are simply following his example and the example of 2000 years of saints

        • Frankie Oconnor-younv

          Yes they are. Also lazy or worried about the debate coming back again. I dont agree with anyone other than the priest giving me holy communion either and that is my right. So i go to the priest everytime. But i dont worry or badmouth the churches decision to allow it as i understand is does move the service forward quicker for those who agreed.

      • Joe Lopresti

        WHAAT???????

    • Jason Suggs

      I dont believe you. Priests are not permitted to deny communion to those who approach to receive. Again, playing the victim while also holier than thou is the pinnacle of traddie “spirituality.”

      • Ce Gzz

        You are a man, how could you find out! It happened to me, in La Paz, Bolivia. Exaltation Church. Bishop won’t do anything, for he is happy and busy chasing boys.

        • Jason Suggs

          By your comment you make clear that you are not a Catholic but an anti-Catholic troll. Zero credibility.

          • Ce Gzz

            Is that even supposed to be an argument? Ahhh Kyrie eleison.

          • Jason Suggs

            Yes, you need as much mercy as you can get.

      • Sandra

        Wow, who are you to say she is lying?!?! I totally believe her! I know this is possible for a priest to refuse communion to someone who is kneeling to receive. And she IS a victim but she’s not “holier than thou” because she’s only being reverent as God commanded us to be. I think you are the one with the problem! You have pride issues! Wow!

        • Jason Suggs

          Pay attention! Priests who refuse to give communion to someone in the line who approaches to receive it get disciplined. Priests cannot refuse communion in the line.

          • Sandra

            Wow again, you’re the one who is not paying attention. She said that Priest *REFUSED* to give her communion because she was on her knees to receive! I believe her! It’s been done by many Priests. But they disobey the Pope who has ordered that if anyone chooses to receive on their knees, they are not to be refused. But they don’t care. They refuse whomever they want who are on their knees.

          • Jason Suggs

            In your own words, Sandra, “It’s those “nice” priests and Bishops who are a problem.” You clearly like to put priests down and make yourself superior to them. Your holier than thou attitude is what is tearing the church apart. Wake up, get a little more self awareness, and be just a bit more humble.

          • Frankie Oconnor-younv

            What you probably mean to day is – priests are meant to
            Because several do refuse to

      • Osono

        Well, disbelieve all you want, won’t change facts. Look to yourself if you want to root out holier than thou attitude! It happened to me too in a backwater WI parish. I went to a new church when I moved, and when I went up for communion on the tongue the minister refused to give me communion, so confused, I held my hands out for communion and he slammed it into my hands in disgust. After mass I noticed a sign I had failed to see on the way in that they were only doing communion on the hand because of “swine flu.” Needless to say, after that reception, I never went back there.

    • Joe Lopresti

      WHAAAAAT ????????????????????????????????

    • Frankie Oconnor-younv

      That truely shows the arrogants of one priest who cant be bothered bending and not the oppinion of the lord thank goodness.

  • I don’t shake hands either, be VERY afraid….

    • T. Audrey Glamour

      What, someone wants to shake hands? Not with me they don’t!

    • Casper

      Okay, I would love to avoid shaking. How do you do it? Just nod and smile – – what? What are the actual mechanics? Do you just make the peace sign? Heart sign with your hands?

      • I just keep my hands to myself and give them a nod, or if I’m in a really great mood, I nod with my hands together under my chin and say “Namaste”

        • Casper

          Hmmm. Maybe I should try “Shalom”. Or, “ommmm”.

          • Anything to keep the people from getting carried away into the high fives

  • Laura Paxton

    This article is cute but sadly, I can’t share it because it says “batsh*t* and my social media friends would all complain. I am a proud bat as well..

    • Jo Flemings

      The crassness is off putting, isn’t it? I wonder if it is part of the satire thing.

      • Laura Paxton

        That would make perfect sense, but I still can’t share it. Almost all my FB and Twitter friends are traditionalist Catholics and my email would be flooded with complaints. Has happened before!

        • Jo Flemings

          I totally get what you are saying. I avoid reposting things with profanity in them too or in the write ups because, well even though my speech can be salty every now and then the Bible specifically commands us not to use coarse language- I need to aim higher. To be noble, even in jest or satire.

          • Laura Paxton

            Yes. I wish Eye of the Tiber hadn’t named it this or that they would at least go back and put in ** or something instead of spelling out the word. 🙁

  • Sandra

    Wow, just leave us alone! Mind your own business. If you’re such a good Catholic yourself, then why don’t you close your eyes in prayer after receiving communion.

    I can’t believe these people! Wow! Such hatred in them! Such ignorance!

    • Laura Paxton

      This is a satire.

    • Jude

      And we have a winner.

      • Sandra

        Oh shut up! I can’t stand satire and I can’t stand people like you who poke fun at people!

    • T. Audrey Glamour

      ˈsaˌtī(ə)r/
      noun
      the use of humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people’s stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues.
      Yeah, like religion…

  • Sandra

    I kneel during the AGNUS DEI as well. I never shake hands with anyone. Many people abuse that time before Holy communion. I can’t stand it!

  • wiffle

    Why is that I’m learning more about Catholicism from a satire site than I did with years of CCD? Try not to think about it…try not to think about it..

    • Juan Dopico

      Well my PRE classes for Sunday school were filled with parents whose understanding of the Catechism were just as good as my younger self.

    • standtall909

      I had quite a few words with the parish that my daughter went to for CCD. Blatantly teaching not only ‘fluff’ but sometimes complete heresy. This was in the mid to late 80’s. Typical Vatican ll anti Catholic rhetoric. In essence they told me kids weren’t mature enough to handle the ‘hard Catholic teachings.’ Daughter was confused, still is. My opinion……. it has been a sin that cries out to Heaven for revenge.

      • Vincent

        Yes, you can think that, but no…they got you good, if you read your catechism carefully, it states it is the parents responsibility, not the churches to educate your children. You run the domestic church not your priest and most definitely not your CCD teacher. So yes, you have the right to be upset, but it’s like the old saying goes, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. I’m of the generation like your daughter, I will never ever let them educate my children.

        • roberdine

          There was no catechism that was known to be “official” in the 1980s. I wanted to teach my kids at that time and was told by the DRE that they would take care of it. Being a convert, whose own class was taught by a priest who even ignorant I knew was way off base, I had no idea what to do. My one child who is still firmly Catholic feels the same as you do and also has the new catechism, not to mention the Internet to find out what the teachings of the Church actually are.

    • WERE YOU PAYING ATTENTION AT CCD?? MORE THAN LIKELY NOT. WHERE’D YOU LEARN ?? UP NORTH OR A NON FLORIDA PARISH. I GREW UP IN FLORIDA AND KNOW MY FATH MORE THAN YOU ALL.

      • Ce Gzz

        You certainly never read Summorum Pontificum, have no clue what the Sacrosantum Concilio says. Needless to point out that other than new popes, you totally ignore what Saint Pope Pius X wrote in his encyclicals. Should we keep going on? Start praying and reading about saints, maybe they’ll teach you to keep your hands busy somewhere else than shouting people in forums.

    • Ce Gzz

      Maybe you were taught some dynamics and not real Catechism. It is quite regular nowadays to teach what ever but not what is basic and then go deeper.

  • Pfft Really. Who are they trying to be like? The Virgin Mary?

    • Claire Louise Bernadette Hooke

      Wow you have no clue peg!
      have some respect!

    • standtall909

      In fact, when I was a child, we were REQUIRED to veil, or wear a hat. Something had to be on your head. Veils were the most inconspicuous at the time. I went to Catholic elementary school, and we were REQUIRED to be at Mass EVERY DAY at 8:00am sharp. If we forgot to wear something the nuns would plop a kleenex on our heads…..not so lightly either, as a little ‘reminder.’ I’m giving away my age with all of this, but besides the point. That was when the Sacrifice of the Mass was truly the Sacrifice of the Mass. We had edifying music like Gregorian Chant, which was very and mystical….very prayerful. Not guitar twanging, bongo banging hip hop that more or less puts you back in the sports bar from the night before. The Priest faced the Tabernacle (where Jesus is BTW) and it was all about glorifying Him, not us. Now we get a weekly ‘show’, the more ‘entertaining’ the better. The Priest faces US and he has a weekly ‘performance’. Oh and wait….let’s not forget ‘liturgical dance’ where they run around the Altar half nude to ‘glorify’ the Lord, or maybe ‘clown Masses’, or even better yet Children’s Masses where they consecrate chocolate chip cookies and kool-aid. In my HO I think they’ve managed to make quite a mockery out of the Mass that I’m not so sure Our Lord is real happy with. And now, unless you come into Church for Mass with short shorts on and a midrift top, chewing gum and texting on your cellphone, you stand out from the crown. You’re a distraction.

      Well, I say GOD BLESS THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BRING A LITTLE BIT OF REVERENCE BACK TO THE HOLY SACRIFICE OF THE MASS!! Maybe people will actually get the idea that they are there to worship and glorify Jesus, the Lord of Lords, not the Priest or the people or themselves. The whole thing is not about US, it’s about JESUS. I just pray that some day more and more people will realize this. End of rant.

      • wiffle

        So wearing a kleenex on your head is a dignified way to approach Mass? I remember my Grandmother wearing on her head. It still cracks me up. 🙂

      • ITS SATIRE!

    • Pfft?? Who WOULDN’T try to be like the Blessed Virgin Mary?

    • Ce Gzz

      She is my model, and if she veils out of respect and summision to God, why should I reject that example?

      • Mary Bethany

        Are you saying Mary veiled out of respect and submission to God? Yes. That certainly was the custom of the day in that society. But if that is why you are doing it then I trust that you, like she, wears the veil anytime you are out in public. Otherwise you are doing it for a different reason. I am not saying a good reason or a bad reason. But I am saying you should be consistent and try to figure out why you are really doing this.

        • Ce Gzz

          Soon I’ll wear it all the time when I profess my first vows :D. There is your consistency.

      • Its SATIRE

  • Nereida Luna

    I had been thinking about wearing a veil for some time when my good friend Padre Ernesto (novus ordo) commented on his support for women who veil. I started to veil shortly after and my 4 year old my daughter said she wanted to veil also. We are among the few who veil in the churches we go to but everyone offers positive comments especially when they see my daughter. Every Priest has said nothing but positive comments, one even said he saw my daughter and wished more girls would veil. And little girls just stare at my daughter with her veil. Not like, “what is she doing? ” You can see that they want to wear a veil too. my daughter says she feels like a princess and she giggles because she says that Jesus must think that she is His Mother 🙂

    • Jim

      Okay. Maybe the whole “veil” as a fashion verb isn’t as ground-breaking as it seems to me.

    • GIVE ME A BREAK… GET A JOURNAL AND A GOD’S WORD TODAY AND READ THAT THE BIBLE AHD THE CATECHISM AND YOU WON’T NEED THIS CRAP AND FOX NEWS

  • fredx2

    Don’t say things like “batsh*t”.

    It ruins the article.

    • Jim

      Have to agree. Not that it isn’t funny. It is. It’s a well-placed profanity. But the whole “Catholic Onion” thing can be taken too far by modeling The Onion’s less palatable habits. My goodness, that was a terribly serious post. Wasn’t it?

      • Hotrod1962

        Yeah, they could of threw in a few ** in the title. Still amazes me how many miss the satire and how the posts sometimes take a very serious, even argumentative path.

        • T. Audrey Glamour

          What do you mean satire?!!!

          How on earth did this veiling topic morph into communion is what I wanna know!

          • Hotrod1962

            I don’t know, but personally, I think women that cover their heads in church are “show-offs”.

          • Jim

            On account of it’s the interweb.

          • Marie Noybn

            are you truly unaware that this is a satire piece? sad.

  • Anthony Maximillian

    Don’t get me wrong, I am very traditional but I feel like since the practice of standing to receive Communion is so widespread, that it’s impossible to received kneeling without calling attention to yourself and making other people think you are a show off.

  • David Standeven

    I never understood why there was controversy about receiving Communion standing or kneeling. In my Latin Mass days I never cared about it (I was far more concerned about Communion in the hand).
    We Byzantines do it standing and it feels perfectly normal.

    • My 6 siblings & I were forced by my Tradional Irish Mother to veil & kneel for communion for years when no one else did & it was humiliating let me tell you. Now I’m an adult I continue the tradition, thereby voluntarily humiliating myself. If you honestly think we do this out of PRIDE you may be seriously, deeply, like BATSHIT delusional.

      • David Standeven

        Alright then…. Didn’t expect that. I’m just wondering why anyone would care whether one stands or kneels to receive. It seems a bit of an unimportant detail.

  • Karen F.

    Recently, I have asked about veiling. I was well received with the question. No one in my Parish wears one but I wouldn’t mind being the first. Not as a “show off” thing but out of humility and reverence…..what’s wrong with that??? Doesn’t it exist anymore in our churches?

    • Jim

      All I know is we need to promote the verb, “veiling.” It’s great!

      • Karen F.

        I agree Jim

        • Jim

          Maybe “veiling” could be a new Catholic dance craze, like “voguing” but with modesty!

          • Karen F.

            Wish it would catch on like that…lol

    • WHY IN THE HELL DO YOU NEED IT ?? HOW INSECURE ARE YOU? ARE YOU SUBSERVIENT TO MEN AND JUST TAKE WORK AS JUST A LITTLE JAYYY UHHHHB???

      • Ce Gzz

        You are certainly a person full of hate towards what is sacred! God have mercy on your pour soul!

      • Marie Noybn

        since we are called to be submissive to our husbands and especially to our Lord, yes, I am submissive. Are you so afraid that you cannot let go of the reins of your life and submit yourself to another’s authority, as God commands? Perhaps you do not know your faith as well as you believe. God be with you.

    • Marie Noybn

      I hope you went for it, i was the first in my parish to do so, and yeah i might have gotten a look or two at first, but now no one pays any attention (as it should be, since im not veiling for them) and a few other families are also veiling 🙂 God be with you.

  • Vince M Sr

    I get the same response when I go up shoeless and that is in scripture yet the priest didn’t like it. I had to remind him of Exodus 3:5 and Joshua 5:15. Some slippery floors are hard to get up from when kneeling in socks so I will stand but that is only for safety sake.. can’t have JC on the floor because I slipped into the EM and knocked the ciborium out of his hands.

    • Jim

      Hmm. A discalced communicant.

  • Ana Jcf Mendibles

    Well this reporter is freak and A Piece of $%$%!

  • Ana Jcf Mendibles

    Sorry maybe I should’ve said that!

  • Ana Jcf Mendibles

    WhoooHooo! I’m in! My baby girl and I wear ours every Sunday and Holy event at Sts. Peter and Paul, Ttucson, AZ we’re happy to do so! It’s not showing off it’s honoring God, Christ, The Holy Spirit, In His house and we are to be His house! I like that His house in His House, Awesome!

    • TanichcaF

      San Martin de Porres, near Sahuarita, here! Our pastor here is completely pro-veiling! He even got my family to make veils for the tabernacle, which really gives us veiling ladies a concrete tie-in to the liturgy. Come give us a visit sometime! 😀

  • Sissy Brooks

    Humility is what God loves most. The posters I have been reading are rather boastful and pleased with themselves. This is why veiling is given a bad name.

    If it is done at all, it should be as a personal mortification to reverence the Lord and set apart the Consecration for what it is. I wear it in an Adoration Chapel, and during the Mass only. If I forget the veil, I don’t have a fit about it. It has become a bit of a trend in our parish and I find it charming.

    I quit taking Communion on the tongue because too many priests don’t like it. If God wants Communion on the tongue He will inspire the bishops and priests and the pope to require it. I remember when they went to Communion in the hand. It was back in ’76 or so. It was to be done that way, and, that was that. I know many holy people who do not take on the tongue and they are far KINDER, LOVING, and GENUINE than MOST of those types that make a big show of veiling, and kneeling for Communion. That is just my observation.

    I certainly would prefer to take it on the tongue and kneeling, but, I am more concerned with showing love and charity towards God and my neighbor. He knows my heart. If He wants it on the tongue, kneeling, He will leave no doubt about it.

    We need to concentrate on what we KNOW God wants and likes and does NOT like. He does NOT like arrogance and pride and boasting. And He REALLY does not like it when we criticize and ridicule His priests. He wants unity in a spirit of love and bearing with one another’s imperfections.

    • T. Audrey Glamour

      Great satire!

      I hope…

    • Jude

      “those types that make a big show of veiling, and kneeling for Communion”

      Wow. It’s like you are writing a continuation of the original story posted by EOTT. Because, of course, if someone veils and kneels, they are doing it to make a big show. Obviously, they are far less charitable than those who don’t veil and stand. The ones that are (because you, like God, know what is in their heart) KINDER, LOVING, and GENUINE. Hilarious.

    • That was a joke I hope

  • Jim

    Cover your head. Don’t cover your head. Kneel for communion. Don’t kneel for communion. Shake hands. Nod. Smile. It’s the Universal Church. I’m sure we can all find plenty to complain about at mass from time to time. Of course, that would mean we were looking around instead of “massing” (just my attempt at creating a “veiling” kind of verb). Personally, I’d love to receive on the tongue, but the kneeling in line thing doesn’t feel right for me, and being taller than most ordinary and extraordinary ministers of the sacrament, standing and receiving on the tongue just gets awkward and sacramentally treacherous! And I must admit that communion in the hand, when done with reverence, is quite an experience–not the same as the feeling of being fed by the celebrant in persona Christi, but quite an experience in its own rite (mediocre-ish pun intended). EOTT, please come to our rescue with a new piece to riff on!

    • LatinMassType

      You would think EOTT would have another topic in reserve (no matter how inane) for times like this when comments get out of hand…or tongue.

      People might not stand…or kneel…for the divisiveness. Or they might feel intimidated and stop reading! (

      This is not a veiled threat!)

      • Jim

        Thanks for joining in the pun!

    • Ce Gzz

      I’ve been to Extraordinary Rite for the first time…and I’m glad to know that no matter what country if it is ER, I won’t have surprises, it will be CATHOLIC.

      • Jim

        I understand entirely; that’s always been a compelling reason why what we now call the Extraordinary Form should never have been totally abandoned. Fluency in both the Ordinary and Extraordinary is a great benefit, especially for travelers. As for surprises in the Ordinary Form, I imagine we’ve all been subjected to “liturgical innovation” from time to time, but if the OF is done according to Hoyle, so to speak, there shouldn’t be any surprises.

        • Ce Gzz

          That’s the main problem…. in countries such as Bolivia or Dominican Republic (where I’ve seen it), seems there is no or little respect to the OF. In the city where I live, I’ve done a tour of parishes, and I can remain with 2 or 3 from more than 15 there are. Even those that remain ok, do have surprises every now and then. People won’t complain for their formation is so bad that they really don’t care or even understand what’s going on. May God have mercy on those bishops and priests who care little about it.

  • ithakavi

    Of course it would be OK with the progressives if one of the ‘rainbow flag’ guys wore one. Who are we to judge?

  • Sissy Brooks

    You are jumping to conclusions. I actually prefer to veil and kneel myself. What is more, I have friends who veil and kneel, and have had to watch as a very irate priest hollered, red-faced, jowls trembling, to stand up! and refuse to give Communion.

    I know many very holy, lovely people who veil and kneel and that is a very beautiful thing. I also know very holy, lovely people who take the Sacred Species in the hand. I was replying to the boastful posters ahead of me.

    I was also making a very sad, but unfortunately very accurate observation about “traddie” mentality. Let’s face it. Far too many have a divisive and bad attitude that is against the Holy Spirit. They get sarcastic, as you have, instead of praying for the right response to their feelings. There are no fruits of the Holy Spirit such as joy, kindness, patience, etc. There is…well…snootiness. I think of my kids, imitating actors in a certain movie, as they pass the schismatic church each time, raising their hands and bowing three times, “We’re not worthy, we’re not worthy, we’re not wooorrthyyyy!”

    There is an entitlement mentality to criticizing priests, the Church, and the pope himself with no concept of the sin that it is. I have been known to lament about “unbeliever”, and impostor priests and bishops. Why, I just had a fit the other day. The difference is, I know it is a sin, and I confess it and try to avoid it. The remedy to all of this is humility. It is better to stand and take it on the tongue than to make a scene and cause dissension and bad feelings. There is no merit in it, and it is spiritually dangerous.

    I am more and more convinced, however, that the Lord is pleased with veiling. We do it to show our belief in the Real Presence and to veil is to give it meaning, not to mention the mortification involved when everyone else isn’t doing it. In our hearts, we lament the irreverent priests who mock, ridicule, marginalize those of us who do it. We have responded by making a holy hour in front of the Blessed Sacrament. Better to light a candle than to curse the darkness.

  • Tyler Hiles

    I didn’t think this article was funny at the time I read it, but this morning I walked into mass saw a lady in a veil and just lost it, laughing so hard. Thank

    you whoever wrote this

    • T. Audrey Glamour

      Oh you were the one.

      Just so you know, this often happens. In fact it wouldn’t be Sunday without a little hysterical laughter.

      Sorry to spoil your fun.

  • arkansaspatriot

    Where did any church documents say to stop wearing head coverings. It didn’t. That bat shit crazy lady… the one that kneels. That is the devout Catholic.

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  • Maria Frnchesco

    JD White is just gonna have to suck it up, he’s gonna be dead, buried and forgotten, while the “women in veils” roam the Catholic Churches until Our Lord returns.

  • Mary Bethany

    Do not have time to read all posts so maybe this was covered. I am an EM and now and then the subject of kneeling arises. We certainly give communion to all, standing or kneeling. But most of us are a bit terrified of those who kneel because as some get up to their feet they narrowly miss the ciborium. We are afraid that one day the head will pop up directly under the ciborium and make it fly. Too many people kneel too close so there’s little maneuvering room as they arise.
    On a very personal note, I don’t understand kneeling even though we always did it when I was a child. For one, I doubt if the Apostles and Disciples knelt at the Last Supper. And it seems that in early Christianity everyone sat at a table to celebrate the Eucharist.
    The important thing is reverence. Reverence does not require kneeling.

  • Ellie Ravinsky

    When I returned to the church I always wore a veil but I was told not to by a priest. I am now going to be attending a church where a good friend is going to be appointed and he already said that he is all for it, so I think I will start wearing it again. I have bad knees and ankles and can’t kneel so it was my way of showing respect. Also I have a panic disorder and it blocks my peripheral vision and helps me with my panic problem.

  • I am going to pull it off and burn the beep thing ASAP

  • WHY ARE YOU ALL MORE CATHOLIC THAN POPE FRANCIS??? YOU ARE NOT. OR MAYBE I AM GOING TO BUY ONE BRING IT AND BURN IT IN FRONT OF YOU AND LAUGH MY BLEEP OFF AND WATCH YOU CRY LIKE A WEIRDO

  • HERE CALL MY CELL … BUT I AM GOING TO RECORD IT . 727 403-1716 LET’S TALK AND WELL IF YOU DO CALL AS UNEDUCATED AS YOU RE INSECURE. … WHY ARE YOU ALL LIKE THIS? WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO PROVE AND WHY IN THE WORLD DO YOU NEED A TRADITIONAL WHATEVER?

  • YOU ARE ALL SO MEEK AND MILD AND DONT HAVE THE BLEEP TO CALL.

  • My name is Jeanne Anne Diener Stark and I live in St Petersburg, Florida, aka Seminole, Fl just south of Clearwater, home of the Winter dolphin.

  • Wildgraywolf

    When I read: ” veiled religious zealot”. I just couldn’t stop laughing. Now this is for real at mass last week a girl altar server was wearing a mantilla.

  • CorvetteKid1969

    Attacking someone for wearing a veil ? Way to go, sicko !

  • Joe Lopresti

    I think women look BEAUTIFUL with the mantilla.

    Go for it, gals !!

  • Joe Lopresti

    I think women look great in them. Congrats, gals !!

  • wanda

    So a holier than thou jerk is just another jerk. Used to be a church was a brief sanctuary from them. Hey ladies, just keep wearing that beautiful veil for all the reasons that sit well with you. This fool is no doubt very hard to live with. I mean, would you want to be around that?

    To the angry jerk, I would say, how well are you aging, with your constant anger? Do you look 20yrs older than you are? Keep it up fool, you won’t last long in this world.

  • Stephen Adams

    To those of you who are given a rough time kneeling for Holy Communion, here’s a possible solution. Receive communion standing up THEN KNEEL! What are they going to do, take the host out of your mouth?

  • Denise Maria Teresa

    OMGosh!!! LOL
    Bless The Lord for granting us the graces to be THAT example to others!
    VEIL ON ! ! !
    ^_^

  • pegleggreg

    this nails it on so many fronts. do churches still have little old ladies with head coverings praying the rosary and attending every funeral to pray for the souls of the deceased? no. the churches are locked during the week. then the priests wonder why no one comes to mass

  • Joan

    lol! too funny but in all honesty I sometimes wear a mantilla at a novus ordo Mass and I’ve never been treated crazy for it… lol

  • EOTT is surprising effective at clarifying the current situation in the Church. I must say, well done! On a more serious level, this video can provide some good ideas of how to be more reverent at mass. But yes, courage is needed!: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHM70uysCdg

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  • Tara Hewitt

    I’m sure God is proud of his children seeing the arguments on this thread…. oh humanity

  • susanna

    These are simply extraordinary ministers of extraordinary piety. Unfortunately they are self-appointed and they make the flip-flop and shorts wearers uncomfortable, who have never had anything on their heads but earphones. They only cause bloodbaths among the gossipers after Mass and in comments sections, like on EOTT.

  • Osono

    It’s ok tho, because they are going to leave right after communion, so no one who wants to throw trash at her will be left by the end of mass:-p