Cardinal Dolan Bans Chaldean Rite Catholics From Entering Diocese For 90 Days

February 3, 2017 by  
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Cardinal Timothy Dolan’s move to ban thousands of Chaldean Rite Catholics from the New York Diocese sent shock waves across the country Sunday, as confusion rippled through churches all across New York.

Dolan’s ecclesiastical order bars Catholics of five rites located in Muslim-majority countries from entering any Roman Rite churches for the next 90 days and suspends the baptism of all Chaldean babies for at least 120 days.
The ban extends to members of the Chaldean, Maronite, Syro-Malabar, Malankarese, and Syriac rites.
Some of the Catholics who fit the ban’s criteria were already on their way to church on Saturday morning when Dolan signed the ecclesiastical order and were stopped and detained upon entry into church by ushers.
“I just want to pray,” said Chaldean seminarian Dany Shaba. “I’m here on vacation and want to go to Mass, but I’m not allowed in even though I have my baptismal certificate, oh my goodness the priest is dressed in as a clown, I have to change rites!”

  • You are calling sui iuris “rites”

    • HermitTalker

      Do not understand, rites applies legitimately to Catholic and Eastern who are validly named Church with valid orders and apostolic succession. Timothy Cardinal Dolan could ship out his dissenting “infallible “canonist ” J, Sullivan and SSPX to make room for Chaldeans who celebrate in Aramaic, not the language of the Romans who condemned Jesus in Latin. Irony should any humourless people be on this thread.

      • VeilOfTiers

        Yes indeed. It would be ironic to find any humorless people in this thread.

  • Jim Brooks

    What a holy mess it was last Sunday. I ushered last week at the 9 am Mass and we were not aware of the ecclesiatical order until 8:45 when our Pastor gave us the instructions. I knew this was serious when the Church sectary began handing us blue wind breakers with the word “Usher” painted in bright yellow on the back and sun glasses to wear. We quickly converted the “crying room” into a make shift detention center. Due to years of lapse policy of allowing almost anyone entry without proper paper work, we had to relay on profiling to know who to pick out for questioning. This of course lead to some unfortunate detentions like of Tony Lasco, being of Sicilian descent. But really it is his own fault because what is a guinea doing at an ethnically Irish/German parish? His explanation was due to our German heritage we were the only parish in the diocese that served cream filled donuts after Mass. As that made sense we allowed him to proceed. What was easy was when those we did bar from entry asked what they should do with their weekly envelopes, of course we took those.

    • elmccl

      Here comes everybody.

    • VeilOfTiers

      Good one, Jim!

  • Maggie Sullivan

    Remember the time Dolan gave a shout out welcome at Mass to the baby slaughtering Joe Biden………..a hearty welcome to the table of the Lord to a man who works for and made possible the vicious, bloody, demonic, and brutal legal killing of over 55 million babies…..if you tried to make satire out of that people would find it hard to believe….the truth can be stranger than satire!

    • HermitTalker

      I am strongly Catholic in every way. The VP or even the POTUS have no power over abortion unless the S. Court reverses R. v W. The “catholic” hatred of Senator Ted Kennedy about his Catholic funeral was a scandal Jesus condemned sin but would not humiliate a dead man’s family.

      • Maggie Sullivan

        Biden and Obama had a HUGE impact on abortion and are directly responsible for the mass murder of millions.
        1. Billions of dollars to Planned Parenthood to murder babies.
        2. Billions of dollars to overseas group to kill babies.
        3. Using the Justice department to defend and cover up for the abortion industry.
        4. Publicly proclaiming that murdering babies is a right.
        5. Giving a huge amount of moral support to the baby murdering industry.
        6. The mexico city policy.
        7. Appointing judges that support the dismemberment and murder of babies.

        To say the president and VP have no power over abortion at best is ignorant and is more likely a self-delusion.

        Here is a list that shows hundreds of things Biden and Obama did to promote the slaughter of babies and it only covers up to 2012.
        http://www.lifenews.com/2010/11/07/obamaabortionrecord/

        As for Ted Kennedy a truly evil man who was responsible for the murder of millions of children….

        • sixlittlerabbits

          Right on, Maggie. You’ve told them and given the evidence. This bunny thanks you for sticking up for all little “rabbits,” to use Pope Francis’s terminology.

          • Casper

            To coin a phrase – – maybe we should ourselves “rigid rabbits”. Although then we sound…like we have rigor mortis (a little Latin thrown in – – for free).

        • HermitTalker

          Did not defend that. Objected to the self-righteous who unjustly criticised the Church for praying for his soul and family at his death.l. The VP does not determine policy. Either way Jesus judges his soul not you or any bishop lay person or any Vatican cardinal who might wish to second-guess Jesus or his vicar the Pope. Love trumps unjust hate-speech that has no place in our vocabulary as Jesus’ Team

        • VeilOfTiers

          And Ted was a bad driver, too.

      • Joe Cole

        Whether or not he had any power over it (he did), to voice, show, or feel support for murder is a mortal sin. A sin for which objectively speaking as the church and Christ our Lord have taught will send you to hell for all of eternity where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not extinguished.

      • drogah

        You understand why Ted Kennedy got a Catholic funeral, right?

        It’s because he appealed, personally, to Pope Benedict for forgiveness, for being so soft on abortion — pro-life though he once was — when The Party demanded it. Ted Kennedy died a repentant man.

        • samton909

          Not true. According to this article. Kennedy asked the Pope to pray for him, and repented for straying, but never said a word about being sorry about abortion. From the tone of his letter, It sounds as if he thought that being against the death penalty and being in favor of government programs would get him into heaven, despite his pro abortion stance.

          http://www.mediaite.com/print/ted-kennedys-letter-to-the-pope-i-am-writing-with-deep-humility-to-ask-that-you-pray-for-me-as-my-own-health-declines/

          • HermitTalker

            Your in-Christian judgmental attitude isa sick insult to Jesus’ Mery. Unless you have Jesus’ e ar. READ MT 7 about JUDGING that’s Jesus’ call. Read His Gospel before you live much longer and GET CONVERTED please. Lots of FAKE VERSIONS abound, most of it dealing with sexuality.

          • samton909

            My “In-Christian” judgmental attitude is a sick insult to Jesus “Mery”?

            Whatchu talkin about, Willis?

            CAPITAL letters should be used WHENEVER I say so, and NOT BEFORE.

          • HermitTalker

            That reply to me was the last straw to end my membership in TEOTT site

        • HermitTalker

          The Achbishop of Boston, not the Bishop of Rome decided the funeral. Read Canon Law

    • Semper Incipit

      Are you giving a hearty welcome to Conway and Bannon? Conway boasts that she receives daily and yet she supports things her bishop has condemned as being contrary to the Faith. Bannon has been married and divorced three times with no annulments. I have not seen you screech about these two receive communion. Perhaps it is because sin is not your real concern.

      • Joe Cole

        Wow they didn’t condemn hitler either! They must be a secret Nazi!

        Obviously if what you say is true they should be excommunicated as well. However, the Vice president over whom there was open debate between Cardinal Burke and Cardinal Wuerl is a bit more well known that the recent alt-right apointee to the whitehouse staff.

      • Maggie Sullivan

        Hi Semper…….What does Mrs. Conway support that is intrinsically evil?……..Nothing, she may have a different opinion than SOME Bishops about immigration but that is absolutely within the rights of any and all Catholics…….Supporting and making possible the mass murder of children like the liberal Democrat Catholics is supporting an intrinsic evil and always a mortal sin.

        Mr. Bannon support Catholic teaching in all situations.

        • Ani Rivas

          Going against Catholic Social Teaching, which the executive order does, goes against human dignity, which is intrinsically evil. President Obama’s administration, Joe Biden included, did more to prevent the mass murder of children than any other administration since Roe v. Wade. During his administration, abortion rates fell lower than they have ever been since the year of Roe v. Wade. I do not support abortion, but given the choice between having it illegal and happening illegally in large numbers and having it legal but hardly happening at all, I would choose the latter. The battle to defend life is not just the battle against Roe v. Wade and to limit it to that is dangerous both to the unborn and their mothers. I applaud Cardinal Dolan for his consistent defense of life, both in supporting the unborn working with politicians on both sides of the aisle and his stand against this executive order.

    • VeilOfTiers

      Are you by any chance talking about “correct satire” or “satire on a lack of knowledge”…as mentioned in the comment by jmikalajunas?

  • samton909

    Dolan is a fascist! He is a Nazi! He is Un-American! The whole world is laughing at us! The streets are filled with protesters! Dolan is a white supremicist! It is a dark day for America! The Statue of Liberty (and Chuck Schumer) is crying! Millions of people will die because of this!

    Did he even pause to consider that this rule would have barred Tiny Tim, whose father was a Maronite Christian priest, from tiptoeing through the tulips to his favorite church?

    • sixlittlerabbits

      Anything that makes Senator Chuck Schumer cry has got to be a step in the right direction. In real life, Dolan goes to great lengths to avoid the tears of Schumer and other Democrats.

  • jmikalajunas

    They are not of the Latin Rite so the Ban is useless and not applicable

    • HermitTalker

      This was a satirical column Brother/Sister

      • jmikalajunas

        I know the site is satire. Ir you are going to create it make sure that you start with correct satire and not satire on a lack of knowledge.

        • VeilOfTiers

          WTH is “correct satire”?

          You can’t make this stuff up!

  • Rick McConville

    Don’t you people ever check facts when you read something like this. This is not true and didn’t happen.

    • sixlittlerabbits

      At the very bottom of the page is the following: Disclaimer: all articles contained within this website are pure satire!

    • samton909

      No, we never check facts. We make them up.

  • Matt Kososki

    If registration ever becomes mandatory for them, I will gladly register as a Maronite.

  • HermitTalker

    A law allows the POTUS to decide who is a threat to the security of the USA and may ban them. In WW11 US-born Japanese citizens were INTERNED totally in violation of their rights. Trump’s way of exercising that right may have been handled differently. however the federal judge did not seem to know the law.

    • Monk

      World War Eleven? How are you counting them?

      • Mr. Graves

        By FIFA World Cup upset victories, duh!

      • HermitTalker

        11 that’s two in my laptop. X1 in Roman numerals of course is eleven.

        • Monk

          Not meaning to be a numerical nudge but Roman numerals use letters, not numerals. E.g., WWII = World War Two. Now, if you had entered WW(1+1), well, that would be an understandable, albeit unorthodox expression.

          • HermitTalker

            Thank you Monk. I jumped out of the Tiber last evening as a participant. . Not fun any more. PEACE

          • Monk

            Oh, dear. I am sorry to learn of that. Yes, peace.