Congregation For Divine Worship Rules Against FSSP Novus Ordo Ban

February 10, 2017 by  
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A Congregation for Divine Worship panel has unanimously ruled against Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter (FSSP) Superior General Reverend John Berg’s controversial Novus Ordo ban, which would have stripped the right of every priest from saying a Mass that was not in the traditional Latin form.

The three judges from the Congregation For Divine Worship 9th circuit court rejected the traditionalist community’s argument that suspension of the ban should be lifted for spiritual reasons.

“We have a situation where the security of our immortal souls are at stake, and it’s a very, very serious situation, so we look forward to seeing them in court,” Berg told EOTT.

The judges said that they could not uphold the ban because it “runs contrary to the fundamental structure of Vatican II.”

“The Fraternity has pointed to no evidence that priests from non-traditionalist parishes have perpetrated an attack on the beauty of the Mass,” one of the judges wrote. “Rather than present evidence to explain the need for this attempted ban, the Fraternity has taken the position that we must not review its decision at all.”

The Society of St. Pius X, which defended the Fraternity’s position, told reporters that it was “reviewing the decision and considering its options.”

“To say that we have not pointed to evidence that certain priests from non-traditionalist parishes have perpetrated an attack on the beauty of the Mass is ludicrous. I ask the judges to simply go to a NO parish on any given Sunday to see the evidence first hand.”

  • docmx001


  • Michelle

    Obviously, this is just a clown ban perpetrated by haters, it has nothing to do with immortal souls.

  • HermitTalker

    The ninth federal Court district is in California USA and is so far LEFT it has to be rescued regularly from dropping into the Pacific. Wonder if the Vatican’s ninth district’s three judges are just as radically off-centre ??

  • tomsyseskey

    “Truth is stranger than fiction” (or satire); it’s already been done:

    As a result of a series of questions-a “dubium,” in Church law lingo-presented to the Congregation of Divine Worship at the initiative of the liberal element within the Fraternity, that Congregation-after consulting with the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei, and the Pontifical Council for the Interpretation of Legislative Texts-issued a fateful protocol in early July [1999]. Simply put, in Protocol 1411/99 the Vatican has ordered that any priest, even one belonging to an institute enjoying the privilege of using the 1962 Roman Missal, may freely celebrate or concelebrate Mass using the revised Missal of 1970 with no impediment whatever, the will of their superiors notwithstanding. But the Vatican went further, mandating that FSSP priests must say the new Mass or concelebrate under some conditions.

    Read more in The Semi-Traditionalists by Thomas E. Woods, Jr., Latin Mass Magazine, Fall 1999 ( )

  • VeilOfTiers

    From a liturgical point of view I’d say this is one of EOTT’s best.

    • HermitTalker


      • VeilOfTiers

        Is that you Bishop McButterpants?

        • HermitTalker

          No I was not exiled from om the Garden so I am still nude no butter or margarine pants for me. I get no rise from Eve

          • Monk

            Of course, not. Now, you might get a rise from a transgender Eve.

          • HermitTalker

            We who were not expelled f

          • HermitTalker

            from the Garden are free from concupiscence and neither Orang-utans nor trans. or monster breasts get us roused. We also have a sense of humour to know satire from serious Vatican documents. Neither do we get hung-up on Liturgical language, insist that Yahweh only understands Latin. The language that Pilate used to condemn Jesus. We even understand Snake which led to the expulsion of the First Family. . Neither do we second-guess the duly elected Bishop of Rome to accuse him “heresy, Communism or liberalism” or deny his scientific consultants ‘ evidence that you sinners are polluting your earthly home as is professed by your Trumpeter in Chief. At least that is what he said yesterday. Y’all be careful, Ya Heah keep him away from dem nuke codes.He might blow up all the unborn babies and born adults if he gets too angry at them Chinks

          • samton909

            You sure sound like Bishop McButterpants.

          • VeilOfTiers

            I’m pretty sure he…er, maybe she…whatever…. I’m pretty sure that HermitTalker doesn’t get the veiled reference.

            But it’s been fun watching!

          • HermitTalker

            You may be right even if your TEARS are crocodile- ishly spelled “wIERdly.”

          • Benjamin Warren

            Sir, this is inappropriate. Please stop. Really, a moderator should have done something.

  • samton909

    The Washington Post just revealed that Steve Bannon will use witchcraft and brainwaves to take control of Pope Francis’s mind. This will cause Pope Francis to renounce the Papacy in favor of Kelly Anne Conway. Liberals will be forced to accept her because she would be the first woman Pope. Conway will then declare Trump as the Second coming of Jesus Christ, and we will all be forced to worship him.

    Well, at least that’s what the Post is reporting.

    • HermitTalker

      USA is still recovering from kissing Obama’s ring and Hillary’s whatever she has. Too early for Bannon’s brainless incursion.

  • HermitTalker

    This thread is from four months ago. My post was satire directed at critics of the Pope and about people presuming that Original Sin did not affect every ordinary human flawed soul. I was off EOTT until my post showed up on my Junk mail. Absolutely have no idea why this showed up today.. Obviously some comments totally missed the satire and called for censorship by an Adm, Satire unfortunately is not always appreciated. Neither is humour. Some minds do not get either one. I never intend to insult true believers but do like to rib the overly zealous. EOTT is for satire, not serious theology or liturgy or moral discussion.