Pewsitter Employee Considering Adding A Few Additional Exclamation Points To Headline

July 27, 2015 by  
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After close to an hour of staring at the headline he had just written about Pope Francis, an employee at the news aggregation website Pewsitter has reportedly begun questioning whether or not to add an additional exclamation point or three, sources have revealed.

The unnamed Pewsitter writer reportedly told a fellow staff member this morning that after having written his most recent headline about the Pontiff, that he wasn’t sure whether or not the headline warranted a few additional exclamation points to help convey the possible lunacy of the Pope’s most recent actions.

“He told me that he was also considering whether or not to add one or a few more question marks sprinkled in between the exclamation points to help express the fact that Pope Francis was doing something that at best could be considered odd and something out of character for a pope to do, or at worst, something completely heretical,” the source told EOTT. “You can see the stress that this news aggregation Mozart has to deal with on a daily basis to put out the works of art that that he does.”

The source also went on to explain the importance of adding exclamation marks to headlines, saying that without them, “no one would ever know when to be outraged.”

At press time, the writer has decided go with the headline, “Francis Brushes With Same Brand Of Toothpaste That Planned Parenthood CEO Uses!!!?!!???!”

  • ithakavi

    In honor of this Pope the headline writer should put a few upside down question marks and exclamation points at the beginning of the headline as well.

    • Mara319

      Where can you buy inverted question marks and exclamation points? Perhaps you can donate some to the Pewsitter headline writer, with instructions to use them at the start of each headline and not after the three dots….?!?!?

      • ithakavi

        Is Pewsitter a charitable organization under Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code that will allow me to deduct my donated Spanish punctuation marks? If so, are they to be deducted in dollars, Euros, or Argentine pesos? One has to be practical in such matters. And if one of my donated marks is used to link to a heretical news article, do I have to confess and do penance? It is all so confusing.

        • Mara319

          ¡LOL – good one!
          Pewsitter may not be a 501[c][3] now, but perhaps ¿you can give them the idea? After all its contents are ¡religious, literary, and cultural!
          You may also have to itemize, i.e., how many times Pewsitter uses each mark, including the inverted interrobang. ¿In Bitcoin, maybe?

        • samton909

          They can only be deducted as carbon credits after this last encyclical

          • ithakavi

            I thought the carbon credits were to be exchanged for indulgences. This is all very confusing. Certainly the Vatican Press Office (now the Curia’s primary doctrinal authority) ought to issue a few clarifications.

  • Jude

    I love Pewsitter. Check it every day. Things have gotten so bad with this papacy, I’m surprised the question marks don’t have WTH in front of them.

    • americaneedsfatima

      Hilarious! Love your comment, Jude! –J.M.J. St. Nazarius and Celsus, Pray for us! Pope St. Victor I, Pray for us! Pope St. Innocent I, Pray for us!

      • americaneedsfatima

        ¡VIVA CRISTO REY!

    • Strife

      Best comment on this thread. LOL

  • samton909

    Pewsitter exaggerates to the point of lying?!?!?!!

  • chezami

    Only the anonymous hysterics at Pewsitter can save the Church from the Pope!!!!!!11111!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Jude

      I just wish they would always warn us when one of the links is going to lead to the dreck at Patheos.

      • Salted Slug

        Amen to that…oops, I mean *AMEN TO THAT!!!!*

        I just now experienced an extra helping of the Patheos tripe via a “Christian” link. Not even veteran Pewsitters can employ enough punctuation to adequately express my disgust at what I just read.

        However, a highly edited mix of exclamation points and emojis might come close.

      • TI

        You mean that gay website?

      • catholicguy

        I requested via email that they trail any link to Patheos with the name so that I wouldn’t earn them any web traffic money. I hear ya on that one.

    • rat patrol

      If anyone should know about hysterics, it’s Mark Shea. You’re also a liar, because the man who runs Pewsitter is not anonymous. Ironic accusation coming from someone using a fake name!

      • MrRightWingDave

        I’m not even allowed to comment on his moronic blog. I huwt his widdle feewings once!!!!

        • Strife

          Banning people who readily deconstruct the hypocritical antics of his Sheaness has always been the hypocritical standard practice of …. his Sheaness!!!!!!11111!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Nate Winchester

            Hmm… seems quiet over here too doesn’t it?!?!?! I guess the Sheaness had to run back to his hugbox before he was too intellectually challenged or faced an argument he couldn’t sloganeer at!!111!!

    • TI

      Talk about heretics. Ironic.

    • Al

      Call…alll in

    • Strife

      Says his Sheaness: the histrionic rhetorical-pyromaniac of the endless acreage of self-constructed strawmen!!!!!!11111!!!!!!!!!!!

      Who BTW is posting under an anonymous name!!!!!!11111!!!!!!!!!!!

      Yes – his hypocrisy does consume itself.

      • As a real live Bear, I have to say that sounds like a fire hazard. I’m recommending that the rangers shut it down until winter.

        • rat patrol

          Yea, that many flammable straw-men around Yosemite Sam cannot be good for the Bear’s natural habitat.

    • I am not Spartacus

      Ahhh, there he is; the Yosemite Sam of the Patheos Posse (otherwise knows as CAI (Character Assassination Incorporated).

    • Strife

      BTW your Sheaness – as I recall, in the past you most ardently rejected the left-wing nuttery of man-made global warming.

      So tell us your Sheaness, now that Comrade Pope Bergoglio has declared man-made global warming an immutable scientific truth and an official doctrine of faith – have you formally declared your new found discovery of this developed doctrine of thruthiness?

      After all your Sheaness – unless you’ve had a recent conversion to the scientific consensus of this new Katholic-Communism – you’re actually just another NeoCon Capitalist pig!!!!!!11111!!!!!!!!!!!

      Oh my!!!!!!11111!!!!!!!!!!!

      BTW have you gotten rid of all of that intrinsically evil air conditioning in your house?

  • Jim

    I am so woefully unhip faith-wise, and everything-else-wise, I had never heard of Pewsitter until now. Great. Now I have to add another site to my daily web routine of ConfessionalAvoider, KneelerTripper, and CollectionSlacker.

    • wiffle

      Don’t feel bad. The hippest thing I do is check a Catholic satire site. I’m at point where, if people start to ask, “Have you heard of..”, it’s easier to just say “No.” It saves us all time.

      Maybe the site I really need to start checking is CatholicHipster.

      • Salted Slug

        I must confess that I am so unhip that I actually looked up “CatholicHipster” in partial jest, and partial hope…I was surprised to find that the Diocese of Brooklyn tried to corner that market a few years ago.

        No dice on my search for “CollectionSlacker”, though…is it a paid subscription site?

        • Jim

          I wouldn’t know. I use my brother-in-law’s sign-on.

        • wiffle

          LOL! I had no idea it even existed (seriously). I thought I just made it up. 🙂

      • AugustineThomas

        You know you’re in bad shape when secularist nonsense fascinates you more than the Church.

    • Hotrod1962

      I thought a Pewsitter was someone you hire for Christmas and Easter masses to get there early so you can take his seat, so you can leisurely stroll in 5 minutes before mass starts.

      • wiffle

        You know, I’d pay for that. 🙂

      • Mara319

        LOL!

    • MrRightWingDave

      Please do us all a favor, and stay away from the Reporter.

  • AugustineThomas

    So what next fellow Novus Ordo Catholics?!?!!! I know!!!!!! Let’s make fun of Pewsitter, stick our heads back in the sand and pretend that nothing Bergoglio says or does is troubling!

    • Viterbo Fangirl

      I really try not to feed the trolls… but WOW. You aren’t even going to show respect to the office by referring to the pope by his papal name? Wow.

      • schmenz

        Viterbo, I cannot speak for the person you replied to, but using the surname of the pontiff is common among journalists and even clerics. You will often see references to Ratzinger, Sarto, etc. in impeccably Catholic journals. It is not meant as disrespect.

        • Viterbo Fangirl

          I sincerely hope that is how the OP meant it. Please correct me if I am wrong, but I was under the impression that it was only appropriate for journalists and the like to refer to an appointed pope by his birth name when referring to events or writings that took place *before* they were appointed.

          • schmenz

            Not really. Even after assuming the Papacy many will refer to the family name of the pontiff when discussing him. Churchmen will sometimes refer to their boss as “Wojtyla” or “Ratzinger” or “Pacelli” with affection. It’s pretty common.

  • James B

    Pewsitter is a great site. It’s funny how the little digs they get in only with their headlines and the punctuation send Patheos and the other pop-Catholic establishment sites into a furious, self-righteous tailspin.

    It’s really just a website that links to outside articles when it comes down to it. The headline is just there to catch your attention. It’s not like I’m going to go to sites like Patheos, the USCCB, or propaganda diocesan sites because I’m actually anxious to read them!

  • Allan Daniel

    The most charitable response to unending popish nuttiness is a well placed exclamation mark. Infinity better than the million words used daily by those attempting to tell us that there ain’t nothing to worry about, it’s always been this way!!!!!

  • Bill Russell

    I am devoted to PEWSITTER but get greatly irritated by the use of ? – it is overwrought sarcasm

  • Pam

    I thought EOTT had made up Pewsitters. Some days I end up reading more satire than actual news. Guess I can relate to youngsters who get all their news from Jon Stewart. God really does have a sense of humor.

  • Marie

    Yeah, when the present activities in Rome and the Papacy leave you speechless with stupefaction and horror, those little punctuation marks say it all.

    THANK YOU, Pewsitter, for conveying what we are all feeling but have no words to express.

    It’s actually therapeutic and assures us we have not lost our minds…what we are seeing really IS insanity…

    • americaneedsfatima

      J.M.J. I agree with you, Marie! I, mostly, just read the headlines at Pewsitter, just to get a “glimpse” of what’s going on, but, the reason I prefer Pewsitter, as opposed to, say, the The Remnant, is because, as someone said above, they, mostly, just link to other sites. The Remnant seems to have a love affair with the SSPX, which is not in communion with the Holy Father (by the way, I happen to think Pope Francis is a very confused man, but, nevertheless, he IS the Holy Father, placed there by the Holy Ghost, and we pray for Pope Francis daily), and, so, I prefer Pewsitter. Rorate Caeli is another good one, but I don’t check that one daily.

      • rat patrol

        The Holy Spirit does not choose the pope.

        • americaneedsfatima

          You are mistaken, Mr. Patrol…God is in charge of everything–whether it be His Holy Will, or through His Permissive Will. ¡VIVA CRISTO REY!

          • rat patrol

            There’s a big difference between saying the pope is “placed there by the Holy Spirit” and God allowed it to happen “through His permissive will”. God allows many evil things to happen through his permissive will. Even Pope Benedict XVI claimed the Holy Spirit does not choose the pope, only that He prevents the whole thing from falling apart.

          • americaneedsfatima

            J.M.J. I’m not getting into a semantics game. God is in charge…OF EVERYTHING…permissive Will or His Holy Will–it ain’t happenin’, unless the Holy Ghost Says!

          • rat patrol

            It’s only a “semantics game” if you don’t understand what permissive will means.

          • americaneedsfatima

            J.M.J. I know what permissive Will means, and thought it was understood, when I made my original comment. The Holy Ghost is in charge. Period. The Holy Father–the Pope–ANY Pope, now, or, in the past, is here ONLY through God’s Holy, Ordained Will, or through his Permissive Will, which means–the Holy Ghost is in charge…once again, PERIOD.

          • rat patrol

            Was the Holy Ghost in charge when one pope dug up his innocent predecessor and try his corpse for heresy?

          • americaneedsfatima

            J.M.J. Maybe you’re speaking of Pope Formosus? In any case, yes, the Holy Ghost is ALWAYS in charge, as stated in my previous posts.

          • rat patrol

            The Holy Spirit is always in charge ONLY in the sense that we are promised the Church will not be destroyed, the gates of hell will not prevail. You are wrong to claim that the pope is placed there by the HS. There is nothing in Catholic teaching to support this misguided and dangerous notion. Knock it off.

          • Phil Steinacker

            You only have to note his sign-in name to realize that we’re dealing with an extremist. ANF is far to the right of Michael Voris, and that is scary.

          • rat patrol

            Good point, Phil.

          • Phil Steinacker

            You are poorly formed.

          • americaneedsfatima

            J.M.J. I may be poorly-formed, as you say (there’s always much room for improvement, THAT’S for sure), but not when it comes to knowing that the Holy Ghost is in charge of everything, whether it be through His Ordained, Divine Will OR his Permissive Will.

          • schmenz

            My friend,

            I know what you are trying to say but it is important to have clarity on this issue, which confuses many people. The Holy Ghost does not personally choose the Pope. The electors do. We can hope that the electors have the Faith, prudence, intelligence and holiness to cooperate with the graces they are receiving but there is no guarantee of that. They have free will and, like all of us, are sinners.

            “rat patrol” stated it simply. God permits certain things. He does not run us around like automatons.

            If we say that the Holy Ghost “is in charge” we run the risk of falling into an unwarranted complacency which can affect not only our lives but the life of the Church.

            Kind regards…

          • americaneedsfatima

            J.M.J. I think that I have been clear–maybe, too clear, for those who wish to both complicate things and put words in my mouth.
            The Holy Ghost does not guarantee a Pope’s election or that it is His choice. However, God does PERMIT, PERMIT, PERMIT, this Pope or that Pope to be elected, and does give authority for that Office when properly exercised.
            I stand by my statements that, at all times, The Holy Ghost is in charge–of EVERYTHING…whether it be through his Holy, Ordained Will, or his PERMISSIVE, PERMISSIVE, PERMISSIVE, Will.
            So, YES, the Holy Ghost is in charge of EVERYTHING; He is our Creator; He is Perfect. That HARDLY makes us–using YOUR words –“automatons.”

          • rat patrol

            Well stated, schmenz. I would add it also leads to certain amount of papolitry. In other words, how dare you criticize the pope, don’t you know he is placed there by the Holy Spirit who is in charge of everything?! Shut up you sound like a Protestant! …..Very dangerous, as it can lead people to lose the faith if we have a bad pope and they start thinking: How can the Holy Spirit choose such a stinker?

          • Phil Steinacker

            It’s not semantics; He’s correct and you are not. You simply lack the courage and honesty to back away from your misstatement.

          • americaneedsfatima

            You (or he) is/was playing a “semantics” game, and I am correct. I lack a lot of things, but courage and honesty aren’t amongst those things. The Holy Ghost is in charge, and NOTHING happens, without either His Ordained, Divine Will, OR His Permissive Will. Period.

          • Phil Steinacker

            No, no, no, no, no.
            Everything you said denies the gift of free will given to us. While what you said may not be formal heresy, it is heretical in nature.

            The statement stands. the Holy Spirit does NOT choose the pope.

          • americaneedsfatima

            J.M.J. Dear Rat Patrol, oh, I mean, Mr. Steinacker…once again, YOU are wrong; I did, in NO WAY, deny the gift of free will, given to us, by God. After I made the statement, “The Pope is placed there by the Holy Ghost,” which can be found in my first comment on this thread, AND, after I was told, “the Pope is not placed there by the Holy Spirit,” I, then, clarified, in my response that I thought it was understood–i.e., that the Holy Ghost, whether it be through His Ordained OR Permissive Will–is IN CHARGE OF EVERYTHING. I stand by my statements, and, if you don’t agree (i.e., if you aren’t aware of the Truth), then, I would greatly appreciate it, if you’d consult a Holy Priest, and stop calling me a heretic.

  • Maggie Sullivan

    Pew Sitter is a GREAT site……so in honor of Pope Francis we “will not judge”, and I’m sure Francis loves them because they must not make much money at all and we all know making a profit is the worst possible thing in the world.

  • I wait with baited anticipation when EOTT reports on BigPulpit.com !?!?!?

    • rat patrol

      You must earn the acrimony of lefties first, Tito?!?!!

      • Aaarrrrghghghghhhhhh!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!!?!!?$!?!!?%!?!?!

    • Phil Steinacker

      I think it’s “bated.”

  • J CC

    Is PewSitter getting a link on every Catholic blog in the world???

  • tj.nelson

    I love Pewsitters – check it twice a day and then return to find an article I needed to link to. I like playing with their name, Pewshamers, Pewshitters, and so on. They have a lot of mean-spirited headlines – but they really do provide links to articles and sources you just don’t find elsewhere. Other sites seem to have alliances or something with the same old set of bloggers. Pewsitters is very diverse. I’d call it Catholic Drudge – they report things you just won’t get on diocesan or established news sites.

    Anyway – when they annoy me I write about it – and no one cares what I think because I annoy everyone.

    • Phil Steinacker

      Great comment – and you annoy me most of all!

      🙂

      • tj.nelson

        Thanks – please pray for me then.

        Actually, I think Pewsitters is probably the best website even with the editorialized headlines – all sites do that to a certain extent. I think Pewsitters is actually the most varied and diverse of Catholic news portals – like I said – other sites pretty much only link to a stable of bloggers which generate high traffic. Same old voices, same old opinions.

        Anyway.

  • Strife

    Eye of the Tiber is quickly becoming the masturbatory-sarcasm equivalent of Communist Central’s Jon Stewart Smalley: Mr Clown-nose-on/Clown-nose-off.

  • Strife

    Eye of the Tiber: Breaking Catholic news so you don’t have to???

  • Willard

    Article idea for GOPewsitter. Sedevacantist conundrum…is Pius XII the last valid Pope or Benedict XVI??!!??!!

    • Strife

      Article idea for Nationalist Catholic Distorter:

      Earth-goddess conundrum…. Have all DNC Katholics destroyed their intrinsically evil and morally sinful air conditioners in their homes? Cars? Places of employment? Offices of their Socialist workers movement? And their Temples of Socialist…. er uhm “churches”??!!??!!

      • Willard

        So which flavor of sede are you? Pius XII or Benedict XVI?

        • Strife

          I’m not a sede – why would you assume that I am?

          Now then – have you gotten rid of all of that intrinsically evil air conditioning?

          • Willard

            I must have missed the part where the Supreme Pontiff and infallible vicar of Christ declared air conditioning intrinsically evil. Sedes usually lie about the Holy Father in the same way so you can understand why I figured you for a sedevacantist.

            In reality, you’re probably just an American conservative upset that the Catholic Church will no longer be the religious wing of the Republican party. You and GOPewsitter will just have to deal with it.

          • Strife

            “infallible vicar of Chris”…? Define that please.

            “People may well have a growing ecological sensitivity but it has
            not succeeded in changing their harmful habits of consumption which,
            rather than decreasing, appear to be growing all the more. A simple
            example is the increasing use and power of air-conditioning. The
            markets, which immediately benefit from sales, stimulate ever greater
            demand. An outsider looking at our world would be amazed at such
            behaviour, which at times appears self-destructive.” ~ Laudato si (the ghost-written encyclical of Pope Fallacious)

            Now tell me – when did a neoliberal-progressive socialist like youself first discover “papal infallibility”?

            And does your understanding of “papal infallibility” also include the unchangeable doctrinal condemnation of homosexuality, gay-marriage, artificial birth-control, abortion, divorce, illicit remarriage, and cohabitation?

            Riddle that for us willy.

          • Willard

            Yes my understanding of papal infallibility includes the condemnation of all that you mentioned and more even.

            Why will we never hear GOPewsitter talk about the intrinsic evil of strip clubs? It doesn’t have anything to do with the fact that they are as common in “conservative” Texas as tumbleweeds, does it? Can’t lose that redneck vote now can you?

          • Strife

            Strip clubs are intrinsically evil. But tell me – are all conservatives in Texas … Catholic?

            See that? That’s your problem: you confuse political ideologies for theology….. just like your Supreme Pontiff does.

            Now then – have you gotten rid of your evil air conditioning? Or are you going to ignore the infallible words of your pope?

          • I am not Spartacus

            Don’t feed trolls. He lured you into discussing a subject completely unrelated to this thread

          • Strife

            He didn’t lure me it – he obfuscated and I pursued. And I didn’t feed him – I smacked the snot out of him.

          • Jude

            We actually have a ministry of traditional Catholic men here in Texas who are praying outside of strip clubs.

          • Willard

            Irrelevant. My point was that you will never see GOPewsitter address the issue because it would be an election loser. And what matters to GOPewsitter is that Republicans get elected. Anything else is a side show.

          • Jude

            That is nonsensical. Pewsitter links to articles that are already at internet sites. If no one writes about strip clubs, then you aren’t going to find it on Pewsitter. If no one writes about purple unicorns, then you won’t find stories about purple unicorns. Or a story about purple unicorns may escape their notice, depending on who publishes it. That doesn’t mean they are purposely avoiding coverage of purple unicorns.

          • Willard

            Didn’t you just tell me that there is a ministry of men in Texas praying outside strip clubs. So, you’re telling me nobody has written about that? GOPewsitter chooses which stories to link to and it is obvious to anyone with half a brain what their agenda is. Can’t very well expect to win in 2016 if the Repuke is out there telling rednecks he is going to take away their porn and strip clubs.

          • Jude

            Yes. No one has written about it, other than the individual who posts the meeting time on his (very local) blog. Names have to be withheld, due to the character of the people who run and frequent the strip clubs. They have had some ugly run-ins with the manager. I understand there are also a couple of men who have begun praying outside of gay bars, but it hasn’t been written about either.

          • Willard

            Just so you know that blog has been picked up by GOPewsitter before on other issues.

          • Jude

            That’s good to hear. I think the writer is quite talented. But unless you are in the Dallas area, the notices of the meeting times aren’t going to do you much good. Pewsitter also doesn’t link to the notices about our First Friday Adorations or Sacred Heart Devotions or upcoming Ice Cream Social/Talent Show.

          • Willard

            Exactly and that’s what conservatives REALLY believe about porn and strip clubs. No more important than an Ice Cream Social or Talent Show. Never mind the fact that WAY more people will commit mortal sin through those means than will ever be committed by homosexuals.

          • Jude

            You know, Willard, you have a very negative view of Republicans. Which is odd, since they are not the ones buying into the wholesale slaughter of the unborn. I’m pretty sure you are going to find more Republicans praying outside of abortion clinics than Democrats.

          • Willard

            It’s simple really. You think we have a lot of abortions now, wait until the Republicans are fully in power and are able to completely hand over our economy to the oligarchy. Did you know that the abortion rate was much higher in 1932 then it is today even though it was illegal back then? Think about it. If you take away health insurance from a pregnant woman, do you really think she’s going to be able to pay thousands of dollars for a delivery?

          • Jude

            Your stats are total, unsubstantiated BS. And any woman without health insurance can deliver a baby at a hospital and either the hospital will end up writing it off or she can declare bankruptcy. And bankruptcy is a pretty sweet deal weighed against the life of your child. Here is a news flash: Mary gave birth in a stable. No health insurance involved. Women all over the world have been giving birth for thousands of years without a hospital. And while they are certainly very nice to have, the lack of a hospital delivery does not give you the right to kill your unborn child. You may be morally bankrupt enough to believe that it does, but that is your own first-world, poorly formed conscience speaking. But keep making excuses for evil and your cooperation with it. What kind of dumba$s, watered-down Catholic formation did you have? Never mind. Don’t reply. You are pathetic. Sleep in the knowledge that you are part of the problem with this country.

          • Jude

            As opposed to all the coverage that porn and strip clubs are getting in the mainstream media and among liberals? You are a serious nut job. If porn and strip clubs are important to you, then get off of your freaking keyboard and DO something about it. This conservative mom is a little busy raising many souls for the glory of God. Quit your whining and man up.

          • Willard

            Porn and strip clubs will cost the Republicans the redneck vote. That’s why they won’t talk about them.

          • Jude

            You are totally clueless. Go do something with your life, like praying for God to deliver you from your ignorance and hatred.

          • FranklinWasRight

            Is Pewsitter running for office? I’d like to contribute a redneck vote…

            I don’t think I’ve heard too many country songs talking about wanting to “make it rain.” I’d say the Democratic base is in much more need of maintaining the “strip club vote.” You are creating a straw man to try and deflect from the argument you are losing.

          • Phil Steinacker

            Jude, I come 2 days late to this but you have been suckered by an idiot with a very foolish notion to engage with him as if his thoughts have sufficient merit to be accorded any respect.

            The man is a fool, and we do best by resisting temptation to feed the fools.

          • Phil Steinacker

            Your political analysis skills are pathetic. You better keep your day job, because nothing about that issue – which is a solid local issue – is an election loser for anyone.

            I am a regular reader of Pewsitter because, like t.j.nelson above, there wide-ranging selection of articles and blog posts I’d never see otherwise is unequaled in Catholic news and opinion.

            I seriously am troubled by nearly everything done and said by Pope Francis in politics, economics, science, and any other secular arenas, even though I am under no requirement as a Catholic to view any of this as binding on my own beliefs or actions.

            In the areas which do bind me – faith and morals – I am OK with and actually appreciate about 85-90% (what good are percentages in this application?) of what he has said spiritually. But even the remaining troublesome words and actions do not bind me if they contradict Church teaching, Tradition, and Scripture. We’ve had popes go off the rails before and the Church remains long after they became dust in their graves.

          • Phil Steinacker

            And so, before Pope St. John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI, I suppose the Catholic Church had been the religious wing of the Democratic party since FDR brought Catholics into his coalition?

            Catholic progressives (I surmise that includes you, given your rhetoric) are drowning in your myopia. Of course you’d see the bishops having been in cahoots with much of your agenda for decades is the natural and virtuous state, but when laity eventually succeeded in pressuring the bishops to stand up for Church teaching on marriage, sex, and Life, your ilk proved incapable of mounting any stronger argument than to merely accuse others (your adversaries) of doing exactly what you’d been doing all along.

            Y’all ain’t too bright, are y’all?

  • Chip Thome

    I was just recently turned on to Pewsitter and before that I was beginning to think maybe it was me that was all messed up. Not that I might not be, but at least I now can see that I am not the only one questioning what’s goin on in the church.

  • Nicholas

    On a couple of occasions I’ve written to the editor of Pewsitter when a headline was in error. I politely pointed it out (using my real name and title), he politely responded, thanked me, and made the correction. The embellishments in the headlines are his signature (and can be entertaining), and I’ve only seen a need to correct when the implication of the headline was clearly wrong. Being polite helps, he’s not a bogeyman.

  • Willard

    I didn’t even have to look at GOPewsitter to know that they linked to this post. Their groupies are out in force in the combox.

    • Strife

      Translation: you’ve been getting your irrational liberal/progressive arse handed to you in the ongoing debates….

      • Willard

        Uh huh. Bring it dissenter.

        • Strife

          Dissenter? define that. And I have been binging it. Now then, have you gotten rid of all of that evil air conditioning like pope fwanky told you to do?

          • Willard

            I can spot conservatives masquerading as Catholics from a mile away. I have no doubt you dissent from the Church’s teachings on the economy. You really want to go there?

          • Strife

            uh-huh. So now you’re citing your own papal infallibility. LOL

            So…. does this mean that “No” you have not gotten rid of your evil air conditioning?

          • Willard

            So let’s see. You dodged the question on Catholic teaching on economics. You dodged the question on why GOPewsitter fails to condemn the intrinsic evil of strip clubs. But you want me to answer your question about air conditioning?

          • Strife

            I dodged? Really?

            I’ve asked you (numerous times) if you’ve gotten rid of your evil air conditioning like pope fwanky wants you to do …. and you have yet to answer. You’re simply trying to distance yourself from your obvious obfuscation.

            So have you gotten rid of your evil AC?

            Oh and I do condemn strip clubs. But then I didn’t know that all conservatives were Catholics. Why do you insist on conflating the two things?

          • Willard

            I’ll be happy to answer your question on air conditioning as soon as you address mine on GOPewsitters failure to address strip clubs and the Church’s teaching on economics including the just wage DOCTRINE.

          • Strife

            I asked you about air conditioning first.

            And I do condemn strip clubs. And define “just wage”, while keeping in mind that “justice” (by its very definition) requires inequality.

            Riddle that for us willy…..

          • Willard

            From Pope Pius XI, “It is an intolerable abuse, and to be abolished at all cost, for mothers on account of the father’s low wage to be forced to engage in gainful occupations outside the home to the neglect of their proper cares and duties, especially the training of children.”

            From Pope St. John XXIII, “We therefore consider it Our duty to reaffirm that the remuneration of work is not something that can be left to the laws of the marketplace; nor should it be a decision left to the will of the more powerful. It must be determined in accordance with justice and equity; which means that workers must be paid a wage which allows them to live a truly human life and to fulfill their family obligations in a worthy manner.”

            I could go on but that will suffice to destroy the libertarian heresy that wages should be set by the market.

            As far as AC goes, I haven’t gotten rid of it but the Pope never required me to. He NEVER declared it an intrinsic evil but pointed to it as an example of our disdain for any kind of sacrifice. Heaven forbid that comfortable 21st century Americans experience a temperature of 81 degrees instead of that perfect 75. Purgatory is going to be hard on them. For the record, I keep mine at 80 which is something I need to work on.

          • Strife

            Uh-huh. Those quotations didn’t clarify anything. In fact – they made the issue even more abstract with vague platitudes and rash generalizations.

            And you never addressed the salient fact that “Justice” by definition) is the application of different outcomes based upon individual choice and/or performance.

            This is justice: Unequal outcomes based upon free choice and performance. This is the manifestation of God’s perfect love.

            And AC – the pope didn’t declare AC an intrinsic evil? Really?

            So … 81 degrees is morally acceptable – but what – 80 degrees is sinful? Is 79 even more sinful? And 72 degrees … is what… a mortal sin?

            Tell me, where is that in the deposit of the faith?

          • Willard

            Those quotations clarify everything for anyone who is not a libertarian heretic. What part of “can not be left to the laws of the marketplace” don’t you understand?

            Show me where the Pope condemns air conditioning as sinful never mind mortally sinful? Stop lying about the Holy Father or you will really need air conditioning one day.

          • Strife

            *pssst hey willy? I’m not a libertarian*

            And you never addressed the salient fact that “Justice” by definition) is the application of different outcomes based upon individual choice and/or performance. And no – the quotations you cited never address this foundational moral premise.

            And I already cited the AC passage from his encyclical 0h but since you’re pretending to have never seen it – here it is again:

            “People may well have a growing ecological sensitivity but it has not succeeded in changing their harmful habits of consumption which, rather than decreasing, appear to be growing all the more. A simple example isthe increasing use and power of air-conditioning. The markets, which immediately benefit from sales, stimulate ever greater demand. An outsider looking at our world would be amazed at such behaviour, which at times appears self-destructive.” ~ Laudato si (the ghost-written encyclical of Pope Fallacious)

          • Willard

            Hmm I don’t see the word sin, mortal sin, venial sin, evil, or intrinsic evil anywhere there in the passage you cited. Stop making stuff up.

            Your personal notions of justice notwithstanding, if you don’t accept the just wage DOCTRINE, you are heretic whether you call yourself a conservative, a Republican, a libertarian or a Pink Elephant.

          • rat patrol

            Even Jimmy Akin (!) disagrees with you that a just wage is a DOCTRINE of the Church. Does that make him a dissenter and heretic too?

            http://jimmyakin.com/2004/06/the_ordinary_an.html

          • Willard

            Color me shocked that Republican Jimmy Akin doesn’t think the libertarian heresy of wage determination isn’t a doctrine. I think I’ll stick to Pope Pius XI and Pope St. John XXIII thank you.

          • MrRightWingDave

            But you’ll certainly throw the doctrine of subsidiarity out you air-conditioned window, in favor of a tyrannical, leftist regime.

          • Willard

            Guess again. Subsidiarity is what is allowing cities to pass living wage laws. Although, I heard that in Texas the state is forbidding local municipalities from banning fracking. Where is GOPewsitter on subsidiarity again?

          • Strife

            Define “living wage” and then define “justice”…..

            And have you always been this obsessive about Texas? Do you wish to call Heavenly lightning down on that state?

            And fracking has been widely accepted by the socialist governments in Europe – including the pope’s own Argentina and most of Latin America…

          • Willard

            The Catholic Church defines a just wage or a living wage in the following terms, “We therefore consider it Our duty to reaffirm that the remuneration of work is not something that can be left to the laws of the marketplace; nor should it be a decision left to the will of the more powerful. It must be determined in accordance with justice and equity; which means that workers must be paid a wage which allows them to live a truly human life and to fulfill their family obligations in a worthy manner.”

            In addition, Pope Pius XI teaches that the wage must be high enough so that the wife is not forced to work outside the home.

            Justice is defined by the Catholic Encyclopedia as, “Justice is here taken in its ordinary and proper sense to signify the most important of the cardinal virtues. It is a moral quality or habit which perfects the will and inclines it to render to each and to all what belongs to them. Of the other cardinal virtues, prudence perfects the intellect and inclines theprudent man to act in all things according to right reason. Fortitude controls the irascible passions; and temperance moderates the appetites according as reason dictates. While fortitude and temperance are self-regarding virtues, justice has reference to others. Together with charity it regulates man’s intercourse with his fellow men. But charity leads us to help our neighbour in his need out of our own stores, while justice teaches us to give to another what belongs to him.”

            Now, I’m done doing your homework for you. The Catechism and the encyclicals of all the popes since at least Leo XIII are on the internet. Look them up.

          • Strife

            Yeah, and again – you didn’t actually define anything – all you did was copy and paste vague statements that are remain abstract.

            And again: Justice is the application of different outcomes based upon individual choice and/or performance.

            All men are CREATED equal. But God’s love made manifest in His perfect justice demands that all men be free to choose and thus experience and reap UNEQUAL outcomes. The Marxist-Communist-Obamaist-NewFrancisChurch lie is that a government of men can create a “utopia”, or heaven on earth, in which ALL MEN reap heaven regardless of their choices or performance. The reality is that the Marxist-Communist-Obamaists-NewFrancisChurchers can only deliver HELL ON EARTH, which is indeed suffered equally by the proletariat, while a purely material “faux-heaven” is reserved exclusively for the ruling class.

          • Willard

            LOL. And you say you’re not a sedevacantist. Ok, time to get back on those meds Orville.

          • Strife

            And you claim that this commie pope is infallible, time to readjust your meds libtard.

            Oh and “justice” demands inequality.

          • Willard

            And you’re not even original. I just used the meds line. By the way, assuming you actually pray, you should get down on your knees and thank God tonight for Pope Francis and Vatican II. If you lived in the 16th century and used a term like PiusChurch they would be getting the stake ready for you.

          • Strife

            Of course you used the meds line – you’re speaking from personal experience. I’m merely observing.

            So…. I should thank God that this Commie pope hasn’t killed me? And THAT’S your standard for the “Vicar” of Christ on earth?

            LOL!

            Gawd libtards are soooo stupid….

          • Willard

            Yes you should thank this “commie” pope. Again, if you lived in the 16th century, you’d be done. Back then, they didn’t play around with heretics like you.

          • Strife

            This commie pope has nothing to do with my freedom. If this heretic pope were alive in the 16th century his ret@rded sophist-babbling heretical arse would be kindling long ago. So if anyone should drop their knees – its him. Well that is except for the fact that Bergoglgio never kneels at the Consecration of the Holy Eucharist – so there’s that…..

            BTW Galileo called – he wanted to remind Comrade Bergoglio that popular “consensus” doesn’t always make sound science. It turns out the earth isn’t flat after all…. libtard … LOL

          • Willard

            It doesn’t work that way. Laymen don’t get to decide who is and who is not a heretic.

            The First Vatican Council infallibly declares, ” Wherefore we teach and declare that, by divine ordinance, the Roman Church possesses a pre-eminence of ordinary power over every other Church, and that this jurisdictional power of the Roman Pontiff is both episcopal and immediate. Both clergy and faithful, of whatever rite and dignity, both singly and collectively, are bound to submit to this power by the duty of hierarchical subordination and true obedience, and this not only in matters concerning faith and morals, but also in those which regard the discipline and government of the Church throughout the world.

          • Strife

            Yeah – and again – you just cited abstract gibberish. The pope has no moral jurisdiction over the objective reality of science NOR can he change doctrine or bastardize it. Like for instance his well known orders to his priest (while he was archbishop) to give holy communion to people openly living in mortal sin. Which BTW IS the entire point to his Sin-Odd on the Family. And no – NO heretical pope has the authority to do that.

            So again – you’re clearly an idiot libtard.

          • Willard

            But here’s the awesome part for me. You can do NOTHING about the Pope. You can’t recall him, you can’t depose him, and you can’t vote him out of office. You can’t stop him from appointing new bishops and cardinals either. All you can do is whine and THAT has me grinning from ear to ear.

          • Strife

            Actually – I can ignore his gibberish and continue to practice that ACTUAL Catholic faith while I deride your brand of hyper-politicized cult-of-personality ideology of a mere sub-educated man.

            Oh but hey – thanks for demonstrating for everyone your true motives of dictatorial despotism and tyrannical anger all born our of your petty vengeance and insufferable schadenfreude . My my my your certainly ARE holy aren’t you. You must be His Sheaness…. LOL … Libtard.

          • Willard

            🙂

          • Strife

            And the Libtard smiles his ret@rded smile…. because he’s ret@rded. And because he really is Mark Shea…..

          • rat patrol

            Shea is the only Catholic blogger I’ve seen that is this fanatical about the minimum wage. “Willard” also uses the same EXACT expressions as Shea, as well as having a deep hatred of Texas. You might just be right, Strife.

          • Willard

            I’m not Shea. Shea refuses to vote for the only sane party in the country thereby handing his vote to the evil Republicans.

          • rat patrol

            Yea sure.

          • Willard

            Again I understand that conservatards aren’t very technically adept but it would be easy for you to contact the administrator of this blog to find out where my IP address is coming from. It ain’t Seattle.

          • rat patrol

          • Willard

            I actually love that you think I’m Shea. You clowns are so lost in your right wing bubble that you think that every Catholic thinks like you do. I bet you thought Romney was going to win in a landslide! A landslide I tell you. The polls are skewed!

          • chezami

            This is so weird. I have no idea who Willard is.

          • Willard

            I kept telling them that it is an easy solution to contact EOT and ask them for the IP information but they won’t listen.

          • chezami

            I haven’t had this much fun in ages. I don’t have to do anything and everything you write get attributed to me, including the bizarre stuff about voting for third parties being a vote for the GOP.

            I think you really are wrong about any of these guys being D’Hippolito though. He has a very distinctive voice and these guys ain’t him anymore than you are me.

          • Strife

            Oh it’s Shea. I could smell him from the very start. He’s banned me from several of the sites he posts on including FB. He truly is unbalanced and completely hypocritical. I don’t know what happened to his Sheaness over the years, but his entire “catholicity” has become nothing more than political ideology. Or perhaps he always was a phony.

          • Jude

            No. His catholicity became a money-maker. Sort of. Tin cup rattling still required.

          • Strife

            I wonder how much dough his Sheaness rakes in from his written bilge…

          • Jude

            Well if you can convince enough neocath parishes to pay for you to come speak and give you a table where you can hawk your books, it is almost enough. But never quite enough. It’s hard work endlessly cashing in on your faith. The sad thing is that pretty much everything that the neocaths write that is actually Catholic, has already been written before. But if you can repackage it and convince people that you aren’t just standing on the shoulders of saints and theological giants, there is money to be made. After all, St. Augustine can’t come talk to your men’s club. So while a solid parish is going to suggest The Imitation of Christ, the Bible (shocking, I know), or The Interior Castle, the neocath parishes are recommending Popcak, Shea, and Fisher.

          • Strife

            Good observations and insights Jude. I suppose I’ve been fortunate or maybe blessed to have discovered the spiritual/theological greats from the 2000 year Deposit of the Faith. Perhaps one of the biggest misconceptions (or diabolic disorientations) these days is that Truth is still being discerned and developed and that human nature actually changes. Neither of which is true of course.

            But of course – the NeoKatholics who buy into these self-serving myths aren’t actually adhering to Catholicism – but rather – a version of humanism/modernism that has stealthily, steadily, and now rapidly co-opted the faith over that last 100 years. It serves only man and mammon with the nice candy-coating shell of the caricature of Christ: the all tolerant, all accepting, non-judgmental, Camp-Counselor-Hippy-Jesus. And this ideology makes up the vast majority of people in the Church nowadays. Which is exactly why authentic and immutable Catholicism is treated with disdain and derision. I’ll submit to the indelible wisdom of one of the few greats in our “modern” age:

            “The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has to-day all the exhilaration of a vice. Moral truisms have been so much disputed that they have begun to sparkle like so many brilliant paradoxes. And especially (in this age of egoistic idealism) there is about one who defends humility something inexpressibly rakish.

            It is no part of my intention to defend humility on practical grounds. Practical grounds are uninteresting, and, moreover, on practical grounds the case for humility is overwhelming. We all know that the ‘divine glory of the ego’ is socially a great nuisance; we all do actually value our friends for modesty, freshness, and simplicity of heart. Whatever may be the reason, we all do warmly respect humility–in other people.

            But the matter must go deeper than this. If the grounds of humility are found only in social convenience, they may be quite trivial and temporary. The egoists may be the martyrs of a nobler dispensation, agonizing for a more arduous ideal. To judge from the comparative lack of ease in their social manner, this seems a reasonable suggestion.” ~ G.K.Chesterton

          • chezami

            Nope. Not me. But it is hilarious that you imagine you can read souls.

          • chezami

            Nope. Not. But it’s hilarious that you think it is and are so proud of your awesome prophetic powers.

          • Strife

            I think it’s hilarious the you obsessively returned after 2 days. But “hilarious” in a very sad way – for you.

          • FranklinWasRight

            The irony is you wrote that first sentence after you

          • Jude

            We have some pretty bad leadership at the local municipality level in some areas of Texas. This is what happens with so many people from the east and west coast moving into the state and then trying to make it just like the place they left behind. We have the same problems with the school boards and the PTA. I am seeing more conservatives trying to get into the local government positions as a reaction to the craziness.

          • Willard

            Again irrelevant. You don’t get to be pro-subsidiarity when the locals are doing things you like and anti-subsidiarity when they are doing things you don’t like. Whatever happened to logic?

          • Jude

            I am definitely for subsidiarity. But when the local governments make stupid decisions largely by convincing others (without any scientific evidence) that fracking causes earthquakes, I am quite happy that they did not go unchecked. The local governments don’t actually have the right to ban fracking. And I can be pro-subsidiarity and still recognize decisions that are being based not on logic, but on ignorance and, occasionally, a desire to outlaw something in hopes of gain from kickbacks.

          • Willard

            So you’re for subsidiarity except when you’re against it. That would be like me saying I’m for subsidiarity as long as the local governments are passing laws that I agree with.

          • Phil Steinacker

            Nope. Subsidiarity must include the reality that locals may disagree and struggle among themselves to arrive at practices which may or may not be correct or helpful. Subsidiarity means local decision-making; being part of one faction or another on local issues does not contradict subsidiarity. It is part of the reality of subsidiarity in action, and that is not always going to be pretty – just like any other process among disagreeing mankind.

            Like I said above, y’all ain’t too bright.

          • rat patrol

            Jimmy Akin a Republican?? LMAO!

          • Willard

            Umm yes. That’s pretty common knowledge. He even voted for the heretic Romney.

          • Strife

            And who did you vote for, your Sheaness?

          • Willard

            I voted for Barack Obama the Great. Apparently, Shea voted for Ron Paul…LOL.

          • Strife

            Uh-huh. Of course you voted for the pro-abortionist pro-gay anti-Catholic Barry Chicago-Jesus.

            Of course you did your Sheaness…..

          • Willard

            The abortion rate has declined under President Obama. You should know that Joe D’Hippolito.

          • rat patrol

            D’Hippolito? Oh it’s Shea alright.

          • Willard

            Contact the administrator and ask for my IP. C’mon D’Hippolito I know you apostatized from the Catholic Church but you are surely smart enough to understand IP addresses. No?

          • chezami

            I’m betting that’s not D’Hippolito. You guys should really put away your mind-reading hats. You’re all terrible at it.

          • Strife

            You should really put away your “katholicism” – you suck at it.

          • chezami

            Nope. Not me.

          • Strife

            Yes of course not – you just happen to be randomly watching this thread at this convenient time. LOL

          • chezami

            Correct. The paranoia is strong with this one.

          • Strife

            Says the guy who’s roosting on a thread in case his name is invoked.

            The blind hypocrisy is …. blinding in this one.

          • chezami

            You’ve totally read my soul. I am so busted.

          • Strife

            I don’t need to read your soul – I only need to read the bilge you constantly spew. But then – you apparently can read the souls of NeoCons…..

          • Jude

            They aren’t the same person. They are two distinct, non-repeating, clueless individuals.

          • Strife

            That’s even more frightening than any mere conspiracy!

          • rat patrol

            You claim to accept all that the Church teaches, yet you not only voted for Obama you call him the great? A man who is openly persecuting the Church, and told PP “God bless you”? Either: a) you’re not really Catholic or b) you’re using this as cover and didn’t really vote for him. (My money is on b). Either way, you’re lying.

          • Willard

            I did really vote for him despite his position on abortion and homosexual “marriage”. My number one concern is the erosion of the middle class and the burgeoning plutocracy/oligarchy. You may disagree on the substance, but I believe with every fiber of my being that we could easily go back to 19th century working conditions which would be devastating in general but especially for the unborn.

            Our Lady of La Salette promised a chastisement merely for the sin of working on Sunday. Now, not only does our plutocracy require us to work on Sunday’s but even on days like Thanksgiving. It is rare when a man can make enough money so that his wife doesn’t have to also work which has basically destroyed the traditional family. We are in a rat race that is destroying our culture simply to placate our oligarchic overlords. You really think the Wall St. crowd with their cocaine and hookers give a hoot about the unborn? And was it not the plutocratic elite that threatened to pull their businesses from the state of Indiana because of the religious liberty law. I will support anyone who will slow our mad rush into plutocracy. If it wasn’t for President Obama, a bricklayer would already be required to work to 70 in order to collect Social Security. That way madness lies.

          • Strife

            “I did really vote for him despite his position on abortion and
            homosexual “marriage”. My number one concern is the erosion of the
            middle class and the burgeoning plutocracy/oligarchy. You may disagree
            on the substance, but I believe with every fiber of my being that we
            could easily go back to 19th century working conditions which would be
            devastating in general but especially for the unborn.”

            Oh brilliant. So working conditions in some indirect and questionable way would be devastating for the unborn – meanwhile you have no problem supporting a political platform that supports the direct murder of the unborn (including partial-birth abortion) but also a politician (Obama) who supported infanticide while he was a U.S. Senator.

            Thanks for proving once again that liberalism is truly a mental illness.

          • Willard

            Whatever. Time will tell I guess but it is a FACT that Republican President Hoover commissioned a study on abortion back in 1932 that found a horrendous abortion rate back then. Apparently it was particularly bad in the tenements of the major cities like New York.

          • Strife

            Oh I see, so you’re actually quite indifferent to the unborn unless of course you can co-opt them to advance your socialist causes – meanwhile you’re citing an 83 year old study to support your ridiculous premise. Again – brilliant.

          • Willard

            Nope. Fact 1 is that the abortion rate has DECLINED under President Obama. Fact 2 is that the abortion rate was HIGHER in 1932 when the procedure was illegal. Now I get that we fundamentally disagree that we will return to a time when tenement housing is how people lived and died but it is not at all an unreasonable hypothesis to believe that more poverty equals more abortion.

          • Strife

            Cite for me any policy or evidence in general that Obama or you Demotards et-al had ANYTHING to do with the decline in abortion rates.

            Fallacy 2 prove your assumption of cause and effect. And then we can all just conveniently ignore Planned Parenthood’s black market for baby parts.

          • Willard

            Geez it’s impossible to believe that food stamps, Obamacare, other expansion of the safety net would reduce the number of abortions. Only rich Wall St. types get abortions right?

          • Strife

            Actually the ongoing and growing Pro-Life efforts may have had a little something to do with it along with more counseling efforts and OH yeah – the advancement of MEDICAL IMAGING TECHNOLOGY that allows people to actually see the living child and also newer research that actually confirms the sentience of the unborn at young and younger stages of development.

            Oh but wait – Jon Stewart and Communist Central and MSDNC didn’t tell you about that – so you’re not supposed to think that. Never mind.

          • Jude

            Surgical abortion rates have declined as more women (especially teens) are using the pharmaceutical option to kill their unborn children.

          • Jude

            Unlike the incredibly low abortion rate in New York today, right?

          • Willard

            It is lower now than it was then. Period.

          • Re_Actor

            Now, not only does our plutocracy require us to work on Sunday’s but even on days like Thanksgiving.

            Did you mean to imply that working on Thanksgiving is worse than working on Sundays?

          • FranklinWasRight

            How is it that Romney is a heretic and Obama isn’t? Your lack of reason and logic are showing.

          • chezami

            Dude. Willard is not me.

          • Strife

            Uh-huh. Right…dude.

          • chezami

            You have seen the part where he chews me out for failing to vote Dem, right? Or are you so into your conspiracy theory bubble that you think I’m wasting time with multiple personae just to mess with your head?

          • Strife

            Oh I don’t think indications of your obsessive personality and hypocrisies require any vast conspiracies theories….

          • Phil Steinacker

            That is a good one.

          • Strife

            Awwww look at that. Marky-mark-skidmarks Shea is still butthurt that Jimmy destroyed his fanatical “torture” tirade several years ago.

            Hell hath no furry like a libtard scorned.

            To paraphrase Dean Wormer “Son – fat, liberal, and stupid is no way to go through life.”

          • chezami

            Have you figured out yet that Willard ain’t me?

          • Strife

            Still obsessing over this thread after 2 long days? Really?

          • Phil Steinacker

            Those two popes have never cited the just wage as doctrine.

          • Strife

            Really? Then what was the pope’s point about AC? And if his point wasn’t sin – then why an encyclical?

            And no – the definition of “justice” I cited is not mine. It is the the logical definition. So the – define “justice” for us.

          • Willard

            The point was that we are so addicted to the creature comforts of life that we have no desire to engage in any kind of sacrifice even if it harms the planet. Gotta have that 75 degree perfect temperature dontcha know.

          • Strife

            AC does not harm the planet. And such an unsettled theory hardly fits the moral doctrines of faith much less infallibility.

            Oh and -the Sistine Chapel, the Vatican, the Papal apt where Bergoglio lives and more , ALL have AC. So tell us – what thermostat settings are sinful? Apparently 75 degrees is sinful eh?

          • Willard

            It’s your OPINION that AC doesn’t harm the planet. The vast majority of scientists disagree with you and so does the Pope. I’m a Catholic so I’ll stick with the Pope rather than Fox news.

            And for the umpteenth time, the Pope doesn’t declare AC itself to be sinful so ipso facto no particular thermostat setting could be sinful. That’s called elementary logic something I know most conservatards have no understanding of.

          • Strife

            No actually – it’s the opinion of a growing body of scientists that man-made global warming is an erroneous theory. And the “vast majority” of scientists who promote this bilge also benefit from generous govt funding for their “research”. Oh and there is new evidence that solar inactivity is now bring about a mini ice age.

            And again – if AC isn’t sinful or a matter of moral doctrine – then why are you citing it as an infallible doctrine? And why is it even in an encyclical?

            Are you libtards always this stupid?

            BTW – I don’t watch FoxNews – but you obviously watch MSDNC and Communist Central for your “news”…….

            Diminishing solar activity may bring new Ice Age by 2030

            http://astronomynow.Com/2015/07/17/diminishing-solar-activity-may-bring-new-ice-age-by-2030/

          • Willard

            Read all the comments conservatard. I never cited it as an infallible doctrine. That’s something you did in your criticism of the Vicar of Christ on Earth.

            By the way, probably not something you’ll hear from GOPewsitter or Fox News, but Russia is spending big money to exploit the natural resources under the melting arctic. Gee, I wonder why they would do that?

          • Strife

            I would suggest you read your own comments Libtard – because you specifically called this pope the

            “Supreme Pontiff and infallible vicar of Christ”

            in a comment where you were referencing his global-warming earth-goddess encyclical of holy communism. Oh and now you refer to him as “the Vicar of Christ on Earth” – gee what happened to your “infallible vicar of Christ” label, libtard? You certainly dropped that little canard didn’t you. LOL

            And what does Russia have to do with any of this? Oh that’s right you need to throw more carp against the wall in order to obfuscate – because that’s what ret@rded libtards do.

          • Phil Steinacker

            Again, you expose your ignorance, or else your slavery to ideological interpretations of Catholic Social Teaching.

            You obviously do not know doctrine from a hole in a wall.

          • Pnkn Moonshine

            ah, yes, the power of the entwined circles and the solo circle… But the real question is – how many of domini cani do you have humidifying the room ?

          • rat patrol

            Willard is what Zmirak refers to as a feeding tube Catholic:

            https://stream.org/cafeteria-feeding-tube-catholic/

          • Willard

            Coming from the dissenter Zmirak that is a high compliment.

          • Strife

            Oh look at that Pope Willy has spoken again! Such infallibility!

          • Willard

            GOPewsitter fan clearly out of arguments.

          • rat patrol

            Zmirak feels the same way about you, Shea.

          • Willard

            Zmirak definitely hates Shea. Zmirak had a good thing going where he thought he could convince everyone that all Catholics had to support the evil Republicans. Shea has at least thrown a monkey wrench into that. Nevertheless, Shea’s fatal flaw is that he refuses to vote Dem thereby indirectly supporting the Republican party.

          • chezami

            Hilarious. After years of listening to the GOP tell me that a vote to a third party is really a vote for Dems, I am now informed that a vote for a third party is really a vote for the GOP. Nobody seems to consider the possibility that a vote for a third party is really a vote for a third party.

            Also, hilarious is watching rat patrol accusing total strangers of being me. Keen discernment!

          • Strife

            Yeah. So – have you finally accepted man-made global warming as a doctrinal Truth as declared by your Pope?

          • chezami

            You mean “our Pope”? Or are you not a Catholic?

          • Strife

            You mean your pope who demands that YOU accept man-made global warming as doctrinal Truth. You DO accept the truthiness of man-made global warming don’t you? After all – you ARE “katholic” aren’t you?

          • ivan_the_mad

            Are you telling me that if I mark my ballot for a third-party candidate, that very third-party candidate’s sum is increased by one, not the Republican nor Democratic candidate’s?

            Somebody quickly call the FEC! The Diebold machines are actually working properly! Inconceivable!

          • Jude

            Yeah, so much better to vote for the party that would like abortion to be the 8th sacrament.

          • chezami

            Have you figured out yet that Willard is not me?

          • rat patrol

            Yes, my apologies for the false accusation.

          • chezami

            Thank you for showing some class.

          • Phil Steinacker

            How can he answer your demand to explain what Pewsitter does or does not do? You’re asking the wrong person.

            Strife can answer only for himself, and he knows the same is true for you.

            This is another reason you appear to be a fool. You refuse to answer for yourself until he answers for someone else.

            You are hiding behind Pewsitter, and your cowardice to own your own position has long ago become evident to all.

          • MrRightWingDave

            Oh, but I’ll bet you a dime to donuts that you’re quite pleased with the recent SCOTUS ruling on queers and you can’t wait for queer-friendly Kasper to get his say in the upcoming synod. Does your parish have a womyn priest yet? Or do you stand outside of it with a protest sign?

          • Willard

            If you’re going to bet, you might as well read the comments so you don’t look like an ignoramus . As I already explained, I’m a Catholic. That means I accept ALL the teachings of the Church including on homosexual “marriage”. Pope Francis has already excommunicated left wing dissenters like Fr. Greg Reynolds. Now it’s time to go after the right wing dissenters like the folks at GOPewsitter.

          • MrRightWingDave

            Oh…that’s why he invited nothing but lefty mayors and such from the U.S. to discuss “climate change”.

          • rat patrol

            Only Mark Shea would write something like this.

          • Phil Steinacker

            Your harping on this point must be right out of the progressive playbook, where a lefty masquerades as viewing various sexual sins as actually sinful.

            But you fail to account for how every news organization – whether reporting like the DC Post or aggregating like Pewsitter – employs universally accepted practices of “gate-keeping” whereby some stories are selected an others not.

            Accusing such organizations of political bias for failing to run stories on certain issues is an old but not very effective tool for those opposing the inevitable slant of such organizations. That’s why very few waste time doing it, because no one with any real political savvy wishes to apply the same reasoning to those organizations representing their own POV.

            The Drudge Report is much more intentionally in line with the interests of the GOP than Pewsitter, in that the former works in a decidedly politically context (albeit with some leanings in sympathy to Christian values), and the latter is motivated by adherence to Church teaching rooted in the Magisterium, Scripture, and Tradition. Naturally, many but not all of the views linked by Pewsitter are favorably disposed to secular conservative positions, and the GOP is the most likely secular political expression of those views just like the Donkey serves the same purpose for those writing for the Huffington Post. So what else is new.

            You are an inexperienced, foolish lefty who is so inexperienced and immature in your politics that you remain ignorant of these realities. You come off the fool much more than you realize.

            The truly charitable thing to do on your behalf would be to cite Abraham Lincoln’s sage advice to one of your own:

            Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.

            But ignore that.

            Keep posting. It’s such great fun to watch someone persist in committing intellectual hari-kari even after he’s expired.

          • Phil Steinacker

            Very clever to claim that those who stand firm against the onslaught of progressives high-jacking the Church are dissenters, when it is the ideas now emerging at the top of the Church were the very soul of dissenting arguments until the election of this pope. Before that, your ilk constantly whined about your repression by the two previous popes.

  • They’re working on new punctuation: the FrancisMark: >p

    • Strife

      LOL

    • James B

      Good one!

  • I’m going to start a GoFundMe page to raise money so Willard and Strife can have their own discussion board.

    • Someone just sent me a PM explaining that Willard and Strife are the same (very bored) person.

      • Willard

        No we’re not. But in my admittedly poor defense, I was off today so you won’t be seeing a repeat any time soon.

      • TI

        I though Willard was Walter Kasper?

        • He could be. On the internet nobody knows if you’re a…

          …oops, lost my train of thought…

  • chezami

    Does anything demonstrate the triviality of the Pewsitter base more clearly than the fact that it has actually wasted a whole day obsessing angrily over a brief gag on Eye of the Tiber?

    “The reason academic quarrels are so vicious is that the stakes are so low.” – Henry Kissinger

    • rat patrol

      Sez the man who spends his life obsessing over the GOP and traditional Catholics on Facebook.

      • chezami

        It’s been fun. Back to my scribbles. Willard, whoever you are, good luck convincing these guys you aren’t me. They’ll never believe you. They are way too smart for that. 🙂

        • Willard

          I know. Apparently you are the only Pope Francis supporter in the entire Catholic blogosphere.

          P.S. You really should vote for Bernie Sanders. Did you see his tweet today? “Some people say my economic ideas are radical. You should hear what the Pope is saying.” It’s gone viral and has 1,500 favorites.

        • Strife

          Oh look, birds of a feather……

        • Llámame Jorge

          I thank you for your support, my brother bishop.

        • Nate Winchester

          Yep, best run back to your hugbox before you find yourself exposed to a disagreeing thought. Such a veil of tears having to deal with plebs who do not recognize your brilliance I’m sure.

    • Strife

      Says the guy who’s apparently STILL roosting on this gag-thread just in case his name pops up.

      His Sheaness farts again.

    • Jude

      Oh my gosh. He posted a quote. Well he must be right, if he posted a quote. That right there is a game-changer. A quote. A Kissinger quote. Hard to top that. Check and mate.
      I guess the only thing more pathetic than the Pewsitter base having a discussion online would be the individual who actually bases his livelihood on posting things online and then soliciting donations.

      • TI

        The New Homophiles need cash.

      • wiffle

        I know I always change my mind whenever anyone even mentions Kissinger. Of course, it has to do with the wisdom of continuing the conversation, but still, there was that mental pause. 😉

  • chezami

    Here’s a GoFundMe a campus minister at Texas A&M-Corpus Christi pointed me to. It’s for two little boys who were orphaned recently. If you guys could pitch a few shekels at it it, it will be remembered in your favor on That Day: http://www.gofundme.com/a2b3g85nk8z The campus minister is named Amy Barragree if you don’t trust the link.

  • Strife

    Here’s a site documenting just a small portion of the victims who suffered at the hands of criminal illegal aliens. You might research them and find a way to donate to their cause.

    http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/authors/id.143/author_detail.asp

  • I am not Spartacus

    Hey, Chez Ami/Yosemite Sam

    (With apologies to S.J. Perlman

    …on Mount Wilson there is a telescope that can magnify the most distant stars to twenty-four times the magnification of any previous telescope. This remarkable instrument was unsurpassed in the world of astronomy until the development and construction of the Mount Palomar telescope.

    The Mount Palomar telescope is an even more remarkable instrument of magnification. Owing to advances and improvements in optical technology, it is capable of magnifying the stars to four times the magnification and resolution of the Mount Wilson telescope.

    Yosemite Sam, if you could somehow put the Mount Wilson telescope inside the Mount Palomar telescope, you still wouldn’t be able to see my interest in your opinions

    My quotes can beat-up your quotes any day of the week

    (OK, IANS admites he attributed the quote to the wrong man because he is sure that Yosemite Sam would pick-up the error and echo it as he has done so often with other errors)

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  • David Naas

    This Pope is so bad … he thinks the movie All Dogs Go To Heaven is canonical.

    I know it’s true because I got it from a very reliable antinomymous source.