New Poll Shows 50% Of Catholics Disagree With Jesus’ Stance On Gay Marriage

October 21, 2012 by  
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Novi, MI––A new poll out today shows that about half of Catholics in America still disagree with the Second Person of the Trinity’s stance on gay marriage. The automated poll, commissioned by the USCCB, asked 10,000 Catholics whether they agreed with Jesus’ objection to gay marriage. Of those polled, half said they disagreed with Jesus’ stance because they believed an objection to someones’s freedom of choice was unchristian. When one man polled was asked to rectify the apparent disparity between his belief in the inerrancy of God’s word with his objection to the the inerrancy of God’s word in regards to homosexual unions, he asked, “What does inerrancy mean?” Another woman was asked whether she believed Jesus was unchristian in his stance on gay marriage; “Oh you mean Jesus, Jesus…like as in Jesus Christ,” she responded. “I thought you were talking about that nice Mexican man who sits in the back of church with his family. I was gonna say…he doesn’t seem like the judgmental type.”

  • JohnE

    I though this was supposed to be fake Church news.

  • Steve

    What exactly is Jesus’s stance on gay marriage, and in which book of the New Testament does he write it?

    • Athanasius

      To Steve: To correct you, Jesus did not write anything in the New Testament. You’ll find the answer to your question in Matthew 19 when the Lord speaks to the Pharisees on divorce. The Lord is clear on marriage being between a man and woman when He echoes the words of God the Father in Genesis 2.

      • Michael

        Unfortunately, Athanasius, that’s a pretty good example of eisegesis, reading meanings that are not present into a text. Jesus employed an economy of detail, answering only questions posed to him, and at that, not always answering in a satisfactory manner. Think of his conversation in John with Nicodemus. We can understand it competently because we have been inculturated in Christian theology of Baptism, but Nicodemus would have been quite perplexed. Jesus was answering a question on the morality of divorce. Jesus declared divorce immoral using the example the people of his time knew, heterosexual marriage. It is irresponsible to read into that a condemnation of marriage for gays and lesbians.

        • Daniel

          Athanasius contra munda!
          Michael, although Athanasius fails to fully explain his case, it is more irresponsible to take a single part of scripture without the whole. The Logos cannot contradict his own word. Although Matthew 19 does not defend explicitly from sodomy, as do Romans 1, Corinthians 6 and Timothy 1, it does uphold the natural definition of marriage as between a man and a woman. On sacred scripture, and the Catholic faith (see CCC 2357) there is no room for flexibility on this topic. Jesus’ statement in Matthew 19 “Some are incapable of marriage …” in reference to eunuchs, and natural defects necessitates that there be the possibility for complimentary physical union of the sexes for there to be a valid marriage. Matthew 19, when read with an understanding of what the bible states, and what a complimentary union is, most clearly states what marriage is. Any derivation thereof is gravely disordered.

  • Michael Barsness

    Hey Michael good name, and Daniel good work. Matthew 19 is our only clue to Jesus’ vision of marriage, but taken as a whole scripture supports natural law. God made them male and female, not male and male, or female and female… No go forth and multiplying going on there. The body is important, while having its sinful tendencies due to the fall is actually made good. The body is us and it is no accident that Jesus was the incarnate one who was celibate. His bride is the Church. If we are made for heaven then lets all be celibate. Just kidding. Everything has its purpose, nothing escapes God’s design even when material things are disordered, and sinful. God loves us and wants us to love him not our sexual fantasies.

  • M E Wood

    Beside the point.
    This post is making fun of Polls with slanted questions .which never reflect anything except the opinions of the poll takers.

  • Jim Robertson

    Jesus said nothing about gay marriage. Ever.

    • Andy Unce

      Jesus defines marriage as a man and a woman in Matthew 19:4-5. Yes, it’s true that Jesus loved St. John, he also loved and continues to love all of his disciples everywhere. Just because you love someone doesn’t mean you have to marry them.

      • Jim Robertson

        Bull! Jesus could care less who marries who and what gender they marry. Marriage is a civil contract.

        • Nightwatch

          Brilliant riposte, Jim. What is His stance on sodomy?

          • Jim Robertson

            Jesus never mentioned gay people period. According to Leviticus “a man should not lie with a man as he does with a woman’ so to Jesus standing up to have sex with John his “beloved” might have been kosher. :^) If Jesus didn’t mention homosexuality why should you?

          • antigon

            ‘If Jesus didn’t mention homosexuality why should you?’
            *
            Maybe because, like you, Nightwatch is less cryptic?

        • Stefano Colombo

          Dude, either you are channelling JC himself or you’ve never taken a peek at the New Testament. Which of the two?

        • No, Jim, Marriage is not a civil contract. It is a covenant. A covenant is to a contract as marriage is to prostitution. One is an exchange of goods/services, the other is an exchange of selves/persons. Guess which is which. God defines covenants. He defined His covenant with mankind as both His fatherhood of us (individually) and as His betrothal (marriage) to us (collectively). And He defined the marriage covenant as one man and one woman for life. And so, civil law cannot redefine marriage as something else. Call it a civil union and even give them the same civil/economic benefits if you will, but a gay union can never be a marriage.

          • Jim Robertson

            No, you are wrong. We do not live in a religious state. We live in a church is a church and not the rule makers for everyone state.
            You want to play your brand of magic marriage? I’ll play mine; and we are in the eyes of the state, more and more equal.
            You want marriage to be magic? Swell. Who doesn’t? as religious people know magic sells. But I can make my own brand of magic that ignores yours completely. You think your magic is better than mine? I don’t agree.

          • Stefano Colombo

            Lax on the meds lately?

          • Jim Robertson

            No I’m completely up to date on my meds, Dr Quakenbush.
            Thanks for asking though.

          • Patrick Butler

            Why are you reading this article?

          • Jim Robertson

            Why not? I’m gay. I was sexually abused by your clerics and Jesus never said word one about gay people marrying who they love.
            I’m also here because I just love to watch you guys eat it. (As we used to say in my 12 years of Catholic school.)
            Consider me a veteran of the catholic war against it’s own children.

          • Patrick Butler

            Jim, I’m sorry you were abused. No one deserves to go through that, and no one has a right to commit such an awful crime. The Church condemns sexual abuse. Any member of The Church who condones it or commits it is wrong.

            I am not telling you to do anything, but I am letting you know that you have a option. You can be better than those who have wronged you, and not stoop down to their level. You have a great opportunity. You can love your enemy and forgive them. You can choose to let go of anger and hatred. Not even just for their sake, but for your own. If you wan’t peace in your life you can have it. God loves you. It’s so dumb sounding. It seems old fashioned and stupid. It’s hard for me to believe even. “I, Patrick, am such a wretch. I do things selfishly all the time. How could God possibly love someone like me?” He does. He really does.

            I have not had the experience you have, but I have had some other bulls**t happen in my life. The only way I have gotten through is through faith in Him. Sounds lame, seems really stupid. But it’s my experience.

            I’ll pray for you. (no I am not trying to insult or be sarcastic.) I truly wish you the best.

          • Jim Robertson

            Thank you for the kindness intended in your post.
            I have no need of superstition. I’m angry at times and that’s a good thing but sometimes bad. It’s not about loving my enemy or forgiving my enemy. I feel sorry for them but no one’s been held responsible for the crimes committed against us . Not one Cardinal fired. Your corporate church has gotten off scott free. You don’t even attempt to compensate the vast majority of your victims. This is unforgivable. In order to forgive a person or institution they must be sorry and ameliorate the damage they’ve caused. Your church doesn’t do that at any over all level.
            So in return Mr. Butler, I wish that you do the best for victims. Then and only then will I believe that you at least get what’s really happened with your church.
            All the best to you, personally, Mr. Butler.

          • imabitterclinger2

            I’m sorry, and maybe others here will call me unchristian, but I don’t believe you. You are a gay, atheist, con looking for a payday from an institution that speaks out against what you stand for. This is no better than me filing wrongful death lawsuits against Planned Parenthood (hey, good idea). To call the Catholic Church “corporate” is an insult. The church produces no pay for goods or services. Faith is not sold. The money the Vatican uses in its budget is from investments by the laity, such as myself. When reported “abuse victims” immediately hit the compensation button, that throws up all kinds of red flags, especially when the individual claims no belief system. You came here to rant at Catholics, and now expect us to have a pity party for you over alleged abuse.

            Even if you were abused, the whole entirety of Catholic Christianity must be bad to the point that you come to Catholic websites and insult people’s beliefs? Due to abuse by a single Priest? Is that the real rational thinking of a secular humanist?

            I pity you.You wallow on the end of chains of many demons. Repent and embrace the Good News! Put on Christ, and stop this foolishness.

          • Jim Robertson

            Wow! Unchristian doesn’t even cover your crap.
            Faith may not be sold but everything else in your corporate (It isn’t made of clouds, you know) church is. Try and get a wedding/ baptism/ funeral or masses for the soul of a dead loved one for free.
            I sir, have been compensated for my rape; where as the vast majority of your victims have not. I demand compensation for victims because you do not. I don’t give a damn if you believe that I was raped or not.
            Pope Frank can say he’s sorry till the cattle come back. But if you do not compensate your harmed; It’s just a pr spin, for the benefit of the church. Not it’s victims.
            I could care less about receiving the pity of monsters who think their own raped children are liars. Monsters who believe in fantasy with literally no proof ; and at the same time deny the proof of their own children’s rapes .
            “Insulting your beliefs” awwwww! You and your beliefs will live; don’t fret. Ignorance goes on and on and on.
            How about the tens of millions of dollars your church gets in public services tax free? How about your church taking those tax free dollars and supporting anti equal marriage rights for the very people who do make up with our tax dollars what you don’t pay?
            I insult you because you insult me with your prejudices and financial backing against my civil rights. All done with my tax dollar.
            You think gays are sinners; or are damaged, or less than. Fine. You are free to; but don’t do it on my dollar. Those days are over.
            Any one who believes in demons are already firmly in their grip. (a paraphrase of Goethe).
            If I wallow in anything it truth.

          • Benjamin W

            Jim, I sincerely am amused at your lack of logic, and how your ranting just makes my faith stronger. And I think it’s interesting that you choose to waste your time blowing off (gay pun intended) Catholics and Christianity as a whole by trying to offend us enough to make us believe you. People don’t usually care to listen to @-holes for some reason. How about the tens of millions of dollars (and other currencies, for that matter) that the Church has given to help the poor or those in need (also tax free and usually never repaid). Whoops, I guess you forgot that. Also, I find it funny that you quoted Goethe, who WASN’T an atheist. In fact, he changed his beliefs sporadically throughout his life, but he never considered himself an atheist. Ignorant much? I guess you are! Not surprising at all. It just goes “on and on and on.” 🙂 As far as weddings, other church events and the like, I’d like to know where these events COULD be held for free! Oh wait, there ISN’T anywhere like that, because nothing is free! Every venue has to pay expenses. Go learn about economics, please. Your lack of argument skill pains me so. Also, while the church believes that a traditional marriage between two gay partners is not possible, that doesn’t make those people inferior to the rest of humanity. Hold on, let me make that even clearer. THE CHURCH DOES NOT BELIEVE THAT GAYS ARE INFERIOR TO EVERYONE ELSE. Got it? Maybe? You sure? Ok. Here we go. Gays are sinners, but technically everyone is a sinner. You are merely sinning in a different way than some others. Now, if you change the definition of a sin, you must, by logic, question ALL other sins, and ALL other possibilities to sin. For example, if a man can marry a man, and a man can marry a woman, and a woman can marry a woman, why can’t a man marry two women? Or a man marry two men? Or a woman marry two women? Why can’t a brother and sister marry? See the slippery slope here? Probably not. Regardless, these questions WILL arise (in fact, most of these have already been proposed, look them up). I also love (read “laugh at”) how you act like you’re the ONLY person in the country that pays taxes. Or that gays are the only people supporting this country. As if YOU are the sole benefactor of our church (you’re so typical). Somebody’s on a high horse… so typical. You don’t mention that atheists are actually a minority as opposed to theists in this country, so in reality, your argument should really be ours. Why are WE paying for you? Why are we paying to support something we don’t believe in? See how stupid your argument looks? Oh wait, probably not. As far as the Pope saying sorry for what happened to you and others, that’s all he can do! The fact is, even if we could, you’d never be satisfied with anything the church could give you in compensation anyway. And certainly there’s nothing we could possibly give that could “fix” what happened to you. As far as us believing in a fantasy with no proof. Where’s your proof that a God doesn’t exist? Oh wait, there isn’t any, Atheists are in pretty much the same place Christians are. Same rhetoric, different material. If you wallow in anything, sir, it’s your own misery. Or maybe bliss, since that’s what ignorance is, isn’t it? See what I did there? Again, probably not, but c’est la vie.

            B.W.

          • Jim Robertson

            Well, you are an angry little fellow!
            First, One does not blow; one sucks. FYI. You manly little man.
            Second, Where did I say Goethe was an atheist?
            I didn’t.
            Third,The quote is:” Where ignorance is bliss tis folly to be wise.” Thomas Gray.
            Fourth,You assert a god therefor it’s on you to prove he exists not on me. Prove your own assertion. You assert he exists; is a he and is a catholic too. I say: Prove it. You can’t.
            I refuse to bow to your ignorance.
            How do I act like I’m the only person paying taxes in this country; because I complain about how the tax dollars your church saves, by paying none, are used against the rights of your fellow gay citizens? (to the tune of $20,000,000 in California alone, in support of the now struck down prop. 6).
            I don’t give a damn what your fantasy based religion believes about gay people. I just don’t want to support it’s nonsense with my taxes.
            Your illogical leap from marriage between 2 people to brothers and sisters or more marrying each other is simply that: illogical. Marriage is between 2 unrelated people and it looks like more and more and more states in the U.S. are marrying gay people. (Given the royal marriages blessed by your church over the ions between two first cousins. i wouldn’t be talking about close relatives marrying if I were you.)
            Weddings can be held on any beach; public park; underwater, if one wants to; pick your local, gratis.
            As far as the “millions your church gives the poor”. Given your church’s absurd anti birth control policies you should be giving to the poor you helped create. You made them. You support them.

            Glad I helped make your faith “stronger”. Such nonsense needs all the help it can get. (I’m also glad I could help to “pain you so” with what ever I do).

            As far as “people don’t usually care to listen to @-holes”? Learn from your own advise.
            My peace I wish unto you. Go and sin no more. my brother.
            Try loving your married gay neighbors as you love yourself.
            And try to remember who Jesus’s “beloved” was; I think he was called John.

          • eddiethegeek

            Why must marriage be between unrelated people? The answer to that is that marriage between two related people runs the risk of birth defects. If, however, there is no chance of procreation, no chance of birth defects. Now that everyone has access to free contraception, let’s extend your little “gay marriage” experiment to everyone else – everyone has the right to marry the one or two or three they love, after all!! And when we’re done with that, let’s open up marriage for people and animals, too! Who says a dog can’t give consent?
            And, Jim, since you believe not in Christ, or God, or follow the Church, please stop invoking Christ’s words or deeming things “unchristian” – you who have no moral code to follow ought not invoke one, if you’re honest. But you’re not.
            You’re angry, you’re searching for fulfillment in every nook and cranny and bathhouse, and you’re not finding it anyplace. Try this for a change: repent and believe! The Lord loves you and wants to welcome you back, with arms open wide and eyes of loving mercy.

          • eddiethegeek

            P.S. crack open your bible – you’ll find that it is never disclosed who “Jesus’ beloved” disciple was. John speaks of “the disciple whom Jesus loved” but never does he say it was he. And in a Jewish culture in which homosexual acts were unthinkable, it is safe to say that Jesus’ love of the beloved disciple was in no way sexual. You’re projecting your own disordered desires onto the Lord (whom, by the way, you profess disbelief!) and the beloved disciple. Do not.

          • Jim Robertson

            So it’s find the hidden “beloved” apostle time is it?
            What if Jesus’s “beloved” was Judas?
            And in some lovers rift, Judas drops a dime and blows the whistle on J.C..
            Or perhaps, more interestingly, Jesus wants his “beloved” Judas to sell him out; that the world might be redeemed. That is why he came here,after all; to “taketh away the sins of the world”, by his sacrifice on the cross.
            No dead God. (Don’t worry he’ll Spring back) No “Salvation” for you.
            (The deity as the penultimate “soup Nazi”.)
            If Jesus did exist he was no “Lord” he was a carpenter.
            And why would I not believe that it is important to “Love your neighbor as yourself”? No matter who said it?

          • Jim Robertson

            Remember when your church wouldn’t let the average Joe/Jane read the Bible? They used to burn people for translating it into English or any other language.
            (It was probably my grandpapa, El Papa, who ordered the wood and matches.) :^)

          • Jim Robertson

            You know Eddie I’ve just been on ancestry.com.
            My 22nd grandfather was Pope Gregory X. (Absolutely true.) The guy who sent Marco Polo to china.
            Of course I also have, given the laws of doubling anything, something like 1,000,000 other 22nd grandfathers.
            So you see we are all related no matter what you do or who you do it too.
            The reason I can trace this one miniscule line in my heredity back to the 700’s (6 Holy Roman Emperors; 16 French kings and 4 Saints)) is because they were rich and royal.
            Marriage has always been about property in and outside Catholic church history.It was instituted only for the rich in the church. Originally because they had property and lots of it.
            Marriages were a necessary contract mostly regarding land and titles. only later did it filter down to the peons like us. When someone figured out there was money to be made.
            The fact that you have imagined a magical power , a {“sacrament “), connected to marriage. Is your business not mine.
            Just as who I love or how I love is none of your business. Gay marriage affects you, zilch.
            As far as group marriages and animal husbandry go.
            Has there been a burning need, a cri de cour, for the Timmys and Lassies of this world to hook up? I look around and see no need. No desire.
            So It’s you, who expect your next door neighbor might invite you to a human canine nupitual ? Is that what scares you Bucky? Give the bride a bone.
            Who cares besides you?
            It’s a non issue because there is no visible constituency, demanding dog marriage.
            There are a lot of gay people who are getting married now. Why? There was and is a need for it.
            I don’t hear dogs organizing politically to demand their spousal rights to see the master on his or her death bed.
            Gays can be excised by a hateful family after living decades with a beloved other when he/she are on their death beds; because we had/have no marriage rights.
            No inheritance rights. Marriage is still about property
            Now let’s talk: morality.
            You think atheists have no morality? How do you dare? You don’t own morality. You did not invent it.
            Religion does not own nor faith create “morality”. Morality doesn’t come from faith. It comes from a desire to protect oneself and those you love.
            Don’t do to me what you would not have done to you.
            Morality 101.

            As far as THE “Odd Couple”. J.C. and John:
            So homosexuality never occurred or was ever thought of in Judea?
            Maybe miracles do happen but not in Judea and not between men.
            You name any straight man now or ever, who gave one thought to a “beloved other male” save in the most general sense.
            Who needed J.C. or any apostle to talk about a “male beloved”? When no other, than his mother, is ever mentioned regarding J.C. and individual, specific love.
            As far as quoting J.C. You don’t own him either.
            You also don’t follow him very closely or you’d behave more decently, more empathetically towards your fellow human beings.
            We are, as if one. I celebrate your sexuality.The healing it offers you. Why do you think the healing mine offers me is different? I do not ask you to celebrate mine.
            I do ask you to butt out of my business.

          • antigon

            Maybe cut the dose a tad?

          • Guest

            Here’s the thing. You can get the state to recognize you all day but you will NEVER have the sacramental union of Matrimony instituted by Jesus Christ, performed throughout the centuries and blessed by God. Never. No amount of pride whoppers and PC shaming will afford you that.

          • Jim Robertson

            I don’t care about the “sacrament of marriage” I happily don’t believe in it or god or hell or heaven. How’s that grab you? I am free from superstition.
            Now it’s your turn to again explain why what you have absolutely no proof for is not only true but THE Truth.
            Imaginary friends (or deities) are for 4 year olds.

          • antigon

            And yet Christ argued otherwise, the Dumb unRobertsononian Cluck!

          • antigon

            Methinks the lady…

        • antigon

          Or species!
          *
          But wait! If He could care less, does that mean He couldn’t care more?

    • antigon

      ‘Jesus said nothing about gay marriage.’
      *
      Did too. Said marriage should be as cheerful as possible. It was one of those things St. John didn’t write down.

  • nannon31

    The last three Popes did a flamenco dance on Romans 13:4 as to the death penalty since 1995…19 years. It is no great wonder then that the laity is doing a like dance atop Romans 1:26-27. When you give a dance, you finally have to pay the band.

    • Jared Clark

      They’re just saying “the sword” ought to be time rather than injection, and it’s a little hard to believe that there’s a connection between their prudential teaching and this heresy.

  • Stefano Colombo

    You are right that it is not a condemnation: nobody could condemn something they don’t even know.
    A marriage between two men or two women, was simply unheard of. That is why there was no need to condemn anything. You are trying to force a (very) modern identity conundrum into a culture that did not have either the categories, or the words and thoughts to define such a problem. Reading you is like when you catch a Roman soldier in a movie wearing a watch…

    • holymass

      Bro…uh…Sodom and Gomorrah?

      • Stefano Colombo

        Hummm. Let’s see. Were there homosexual getting married in Sodom and Gomorrah? You must have a Very Revised and Updated Bible that you rely on for this…
        My point was definitely not in favor of gay “marriage”. Michael in his commentary uses the argumentum ex silentio, which is a logical fallacy. No one speaks about something they cannot see and that is not contemplated in their culture (i.e. gay “marriage”). In the same line of reasoning: no one ever asked Jesus about homosexuality’s sinfulness, because of Sodom and Gomorrah and the overt condemnation of homosexual acts in the O.T.
        That moral judgment remained steady in our culture until the 70’s, and still remains in many other cultures.
        It’s our cultural shift that makes us try to find explicit answers in the Bible to problems that did not exist back then. What the Church has done is to distill general principles of morality from Jesus and Bible teachings to confront new moral problems.
        That is what we are trying to do right now with beginning-of-life issues such as artificial reproduction, genetic engineering, cloning… All stuff that you cannot find in the Bible but needs to be understood in its deep human implications. Hope I clarified my point a bit.

        • Erika Allen

          1 Corinthians 6:9-11 9 Know you not that the unjust shall not possess the kingdom of God? Do not err: Neither fornicators nor idolaters nor adulterers: 10 Nor the effeminate nor liers with mankind nor thieves nor covetous nor drunkards nor railers nor extortioners shall possess the kingdom of God. 11 And such some of you were. But you are washed: but you are sanctified: but you are justified: in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ and the Spirit of our God.

          Do not err. Stop bending yourself over backwards to justify this!

  • robert chacon

    You cant write better satire than some of the comments here! Those of you anti , or non Christians who come here trying to tell us what Christ really meant are hilarious! Take that act on the road!

  • Guest

    1 Corinthians 6:9-11

  • Erika Allen

    1 Corinthians 6:9-11 This one is another one I find pretty darn clear

  • Anna Baker

    Because these people are not informed. They don’t understand that this is the choice they we are not free to choose. IF GOD said He only made MAN and WOMAN and nothing else, you have to believe that, because He is THE CREATOR. Why should He lie? Stupid people lie… to support their personal agenda. For fear that they will lose a friend who is confused. Jesus said CONFUSION COMES FROM SATAN!. So for those people who still think that being the 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th Kind are practicing their FREE WILL think again, God did not make you like that, that you had to leave your family God give you to be gay… the devil is, do you know you could get cured, try to be obedient to God and ask Him to heal you, and make you understand. Ask Him how you could serve Him regardless of what you are going through…. because I over come this evil. Ask me how I did it and I will tell you, fasting and prayer. God is not dead!!!!! He still makes miracle everyday!

    • Jim Robertson

      God who?
      Satan who?
      Two imaginary “friends/enemies. Rolling around the earth. Raising Cain or Glory. Depending on the whim of the very strange god that allows it.
      Completely and utterly non provable; ridiculous. Silly/stupid in fact. No evidence for any of it. But people have been killed and harmed using both their names as an excuse to kill and dead is after all dead. No comebacks. Sad. Sad.
      Confusion doesn’t come from Satan it comes from people like you who want to get out of thinking about and taking responsibility for the things that THEY/YOU do.
      If your brain were an apartment, you ought to be charging the church rent; cuz they are living there rent free. Next to some pagan bogey man or “demon” something to scare mommy’s little darling.
      Grow up life is tough enough as it is. Imaginings are simply that: nothing.
      Who scared you so? Who encouraged you to be so afraid of reality? Reality as it is.

      • Anna Baker

        You know how silly your reasoning is?, Satan did get through to you because you become so dull even if you have graduated high school. Try not breath for 3 minutes. Let see if it is good feeling, oneday if you are still gonna be alive, when all these benevolence you are enjoying will be full right from your feet, you will only curse the God you refuse to acknowledge. See, even this thought alone will make you so stupid human being. You are not made to be this stupid but you shut the wisdom that is given to you for whatever reason, maybe the society you live in applaud it, but not for long, you will see that the reality you only know ends, and what then if you don’t have HOPE? YOU WILL DIE IN HORROR! you do not wanna to end this world you live in but we know and we know you will die sooner or later, but when I die it will not be as horror as yours because I know for sure that my God, will come for me. That I have soul and want to be with my Good God. Here is the message of Our Lord Jesus for you atheist: On December 14, 2006
        Jesus said
        “I speak today with the greatest seriousness.
        My beloved one, you were created by God.
        God did not create you to reject your place
        in His family. You are important in this
        family, which includes all of mankind. To
        cast yourself out of God’s love is to cast
        yourself out of your family. You object to
        this, telling yourself that you do not reject
        mankind, only the Creator of mankind. My
        friend, this is like reaching into your chest
        and removing your heart with the goal of
        rejecting your heart but accepting your
        body. The body will not function without
        the heart. It cannot. In the same way, the
        family of God cannot function without the
        sustaining hand of the Father. Even the
        earth would fail to exist if the Father were
        to withdraw His benevolence. Your
        rejection of God proceeds from anger. You
        move to deny this. Perhaps you cite
        scientific evidence that claims to supplant
        God’s existence. When you die in your body
        and you come before Me, Jesus Christ, you
        will be dazzled by the extent of what
        humanity does not know. The body of
        knowledge on earth at this time, while
        exciting for you, is miniscule when seen
        against the light of the full truth that you
        will be allowed to explore in heaven. I bless
        all science of good will. God has been
        merciful in the extreme through science.
        Many men have studied science and been
        brought to a profound respect for the
        Creator through the knowledge they have
        gained. They will continue this study in
        heaven, of course, and be blessed even
        more. Additionally, many men who study
        science have served their family, humanity,
        profoundly through their cooperation with
        Me in their studies. Do you understand?
        They cooperate with God and God, through
        that cooperation, blesses humanity. It is
        arrogance on the part of mankind to
        believe that they have discovered anything
        that I did not wish for them to discover.
        You, as one of God’s created ones, must
        come to accept that those using science to
        subvert Godly principles are working
        against the Creator. They will be
        accountable for any damage done to the
        Kingdom of God. I am merciful to those who
        repent and I will be merciful to you. I speak
        to you today, not to condemn, but to save. I
        am with you. Do not reject Me.”

        • Jim Robertson

          Gee Jesus said that and in English too? Wow! and in 2006 he said it. I must have missed that personal appearance.
          If I “WILL DIE IN HORROR” it will only be the horror of the ignorance of humanity

          • Anna Baker

            If you have the intellect Jim Robertson, use it in this time. It is mercy that our God will stoop down to His stupid children so dull cannot understand love anymore…. Having to hear a person like you Jim Robertson, my heart hurt so bad because the gift of heavenly understanding, truth and knowledge is just push aside, like the gift of eternity that God offered is just a dirt rags…. I just hope for you, you will still have time to repent and would want this LOVE of God, or else your regrets would be so profound. I pity you so much. I do not know what makes you so bitter, but I hope and pray you will healed. If you want you can be happy again, joyful and a good human being like God intend you to be.

          • Anna Baker

            You can do better than thank Jim Robertson….

      • antigon

        ‘Reality as is.’
        *
        You know Mz B, the one full of sound & fury signifying nothing.

  • Terry Lynn Madeleine Dillon

    This meme is one of those totems that the Youtube “This will make you mad” is about. I really don’t think 50 percent of Catholics disagree with Jesus. Do they? Is it not more likely that 50 percent think that there is nothing we can do about civil marriages since atheists who have no intention of having children can be married at city hall or the courthouse? Are they saying that Christ’s Church should promote these unions to the status of Sacramental Unions? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE3j_RHkqJc

  • Terry Lynn Madeleine Dillon

    LOL I fell for it when one of my friends posted it for real. Hahaha on me!

  • Terry Lynn Madeleine Dillon

    Satire is obvious but when my friend posted it, I jumped in to “explain” it. Hahaha on me! It is all about this video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE3j_RHkqJc

  • bryan

    The supposed Jesus character did not have a ‘stance on gay marriage’. And if catholic fundamentalists want to live in a theocracy..start by calling for adulterers to be put to death…

  • ithakavi

    UPDATE 2016. It’s no longer satire.