No Laity Found To Bring Up Gifts To Altar; Consecration Delayed Two Hours

January 28, 2013 by  
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Pastor of St. Dwenden Catholic Church Ben Gregory was forced to postpone the consecration for nearly two hours earlier this morning after lead usher Kevin Sarkosy was unsuccessful in locating anyone willing to bring up the bread and wine for the Presentation of the Gifts at Mass.

“Obviously the presentation is as important to the Mass as the consecration is…everyone knows that,” Sarkosy told EOTT as he and three others searched, frantically, for a willing family to present the gifts. “In fact, I go as far as to say that the laity’s role in presenting the gifts is as important as Father Gregory’s is in consecrating it. Without Mary’s Fiat, after all, there is no Jesus to be born; and without the laity’s Fiat in presenting, there is no bread to become Jesus…if you think about like that.”

Sarkosy went on to report that everyone was acting very peculiar as he approached them to ask whether they would be interested in participating, saying, “They all had their heads down…like they were praying or something.”

“I mean, me and my wife would’ve done it, of course, except that we had the money baskets to carry.”

  • jedf

    St Dwenden… Lol is there really a saint with that name?

    • More Tea Vicar?

      About as real as the following:

      Saint Orf, the patron saint of unruly soccer players

      Saint Inebriata, the patroness of hen parties

      and Saint Chantel Lee Lace, which was a RC Parish two blocks down from where the Big Bopper used to live…

  • JohnK

    Hmmm…. I enjoy keeping up with the news through this site, but this one misses the mark.

  • More of a bullseye, you mean?

  • Cindy Coleman

    @John, if it misses the mark for you, then you are blessed to have had better experiences than some of us. I cringe to think that in a previous parish, ordained priests would sit and they would invited Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion (I was an EMHC) to distribute the Blessed Sacrament. This post all about over-emphasizing and distorting the role of the laity in liturgy–consecration at Mass is the “sum and summit” of our faith not because of the presentation of the gifts, but the sacrifice of the Lamb.

    • Susan Gallen

      Cindy in our parish, every Sunday I’m waiting for the raised platform to collapse under the weight of the rabid crowd that thunders down the aisles to be priests for the day. There’s got to be thirty people up there, passing out the Host, and the Chalice. It’s looks like a damn cocktail party.

      • More Tea Vicar?

        Or an old crone’s knitting circle.

  • Teresa B.

    I knew right away this wasn’t true. My husband used to be a sales rep for a Toronto Catholic store and we had each church circled on my mapbook. I know my churches in TO. LOL.

  • Teresa B.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if it was a church in Newmarket though! (part of the Archdiocese of Toronto)

  • Will

    The GIRM (#73) says: “The offerings are then brought forward. It is praiseworthy for the bread and wine to be presented by the faithful.”
    If the missal says to do it, it’s OK by me. I do have a problem with the deacon or priest grandly blessing the money and then putting the wicker basket under the altar. The same section of the GIRM says that the money should not be placed there.

  • Martha

    Haha. Sad, but true. 😉 Love this site.

    The longer I go to the Trad. Latin Mass, the more blatant the differences appear to me! I can’t even stand going to a Novus Ordo anymore- I’ll drive for hours, get up in the dark- whatever I have to to get there! The NO feels like an evangelical pow wow every time. Ew.

    • Deacon Chris

      Martha –

      While I understand your frustration, I would ask that you keep two things in mind –

      1. This site takes things to the absurd level to make a point. It is a very funny blog and we should take it in the tone it is given – a light hearted opportunity to laugh at ourselves.

      2. Please do not get so far away from the NO that you leave the Church. Many well intentioned people have gone from the NO, to FSSP, to SSPX, to CRMI and SSPV. They are all searching from something and lose site of the fact that what they are looking for can only be found in the Church, in Communion with the Pope, the Vicar of Christ.

      God Bless, enjoy the Latin Mass, and laugh with the rest of us on the site!

      Deacon Chris

      • “Many well intentioned people have gone from the NO, to FSSP, to SSPX, to CRMI and SSPV.”

        Deacon, Chris,

        Did you mean to include the FSSP in this list? They are a papally approved order, and under the immediate jurisdiction of the bishops of the dioceses they operate in.

    • Julie S.

      I couldn’t agree with you any more. I visited the Latin Mass 40min. down the road, and now, I’m hooked. Attending the NO during the week is sooooo hard to do. I make my own adjustments to stomach it, such as– prayer hands and eyes fixed upon the consecrated host upon the altar instead of high-fiving my neighbors at the sign of peace.
      God, save us from the liberals that have taken over Your beautiful Mass.

      • Frankly

        Agreed. When Jesus said the Tridentine Mass, he was probably hoping we would always do it that way.

  • John

    Why couldn’t the ushers have taken up the gifts?

    • ithakavi

      Union rules.

  • Martha

    I appreciate your concern, Deacon Chris. Truly! 🙂 And I agree with the point you’re trying to make.

    Love, love, love Papa Bene. Have his pic by my front door! Everything we do at our TLM is approved by (and sometimes blessed with the presence of) our local Bishop.

    Just can’t take the abuses at our local NO, and yes they’re taken to an extreme level on this site (one hopes!), but like Chesterton would say, if things become ridiculous at their extreme, perhaps they were ridiculous to start with.

    • Susan Gallen

      Martha, absolutely agree with you. I always keep my eyes on the Chair of Peter and I will never leave but find myself getting more and more frustrated with some of the openly irreverent nonsense that goes on during holy Mass. We have a progressive leaning parish council who plaster their (anti-catholic values) politicians signs on the lawns. We have radical nuns posting “Nuns on the Bus” notices in the entryway and bulletin. Our choir wouldn’t know a Marian song if they tripped over it but they soulfully wail about being taken down to the river. Mom and daughter receive the Eucharest in short shorts. My sad lament could go on. I hate to paraphrase someone I despise but ‘Dude, where’s my Church”?

      • Granny

        Absolutely AMEN! I could just copy and paste your comment here as mine. How about EMHC wearing slip dresses… or distributing in shorts? We left the NO and are happily assisting at the EF as we should be by offering our prayers with the priest for the glorification and worship of God… not man. Assisting at Mass has nothing to do with running all over the altar doing stuff. If you don’t know why the NO is so off track in many parishes read this from Crisis Magazine

  • Michael Leggett

    Please, not only the Tridentine Latin Mass, but the Byzantine Rite Catholic Divine Liturgy of St John Chrysostom, does not have this innovation. But, I do take this for the Satire Piece it is.

  • steve5656546346

    Oh yeah!

  • More Tea Vicar?

    If there is no-one to bring up the offerings, they could always use drones with those metal grabbers fixed onto them that you normally see in those boxes at the fun fair – you know the ones, where you put a few coins in the slot, the grabber just misses picking up a toy. I bet an altar boy would have so much fun at the controls.

    Or train falcons or owls, like some people do for weddings.

    • Margarett Cahill Zavodny

      Good one!

  • Paul Andersen

    This is ridiculous. Padre: “Get a life” and just get the gifts yourself and move on. Not everyone totally “buys into” to whole presentation thing (a bit of the 1960s). Sure, there’s some theology behind it, but that should’t take precedence over the celebration. But, then again, I’m not an RC.

    • Ziyali

      I guess you’re also not aware that Eye of the Tiber is satire.

  • Catherine Guy

    I doubt this is true–alt truth, perhaps? It is about as dumb as the story that went around about the priest who stopped Mass to crawl under the pews playing Pokemon. If it is, the priest and head usher are both morons. The person(s) bring up the gifts are neither important nor indispensable. What was wrong with the usher making 2 trips? How many of those reluctant people (morons too) actually stuck around for 2 hours? And Dwendon? Not in Butler’s Lives of the Saints!

    And as one who grew up in the old days of boring low Masses in Latin, with the priest droning on with his back to the congregation, I have absolutely no interest in returning. But I fancy myself as a relatively liberal Catholic with common sense.

    • Margarett Cahill Zavodny

      Catherine, it is satire–exaggerated fiction presented to prove a point.

      • More Tea Vicar?

        Right on! Unfortunately, though, the lines of satire and reality are rapidly being blurred by the day! Whenever I read something new from EOTT, the reaction from me is ”*sigh!* I wouldn’t put it past them!”

      • Catherine Guy

        I know that, am satirizing the satire, but I do not support the reason that most respondents gave for it. Mass is Mass. It has as much spiritual value in whatever language is used or whichever rite. I taught seminarians from 3rd world countries for a number of years, and they often expressed the opinion that their people needed to hear the Mass in words they could understand. One of my Haitians told me that the Catholic Church in Haiti was using French, while the majority of Haitians only spoke Creole fluently. How would Latin be better?

        I have visited over 50 countries, including China, Russia, Cuba, India, and most of the Middle Eastern countries, as well as most of the United States. Not surprisingly, there is very little difference in the Masses and I have rarely encountered the nightmares that the traditionalists love to publicize. The Mass in Beijing was especially moving (regardless of whether he was in the underground church or the Patriotic Catholic Church, the priest was ordained by Cardinal Law). Shalom